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Old 4th Aug 2006, 13:47
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Easy jet wet lease

This may no longer be news, but from Luchtzak.......

easyJet has been forced to wet-lease a B737-300 from Futura Intl Airways and a B757-200 from Air Finland because of crew shortages.

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you're about 2 months behind with that.
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Please Note:
They are not leased because of crew shortages.
CAA Web Site
Category (b) (leases to replace aircraft taken out of the fleet for planned maintenance)
easyJet Airline Company Ltd to wet lease one Spanish registered Boeing 737-300 aircraft (registration EC-JUC or substitute) from 3 July 2006 until 31 August 2006.
easyJet Airline Company Limited to wet lease one Finnish registered Boeing 757-200 aircraft (registration OH-AFJ or substitute) from 3 July 2006 until 31 August 2006.
So as you can see they are not short of crews, how blind are the CAA and l wonder why no one objected, or maybe they have.
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Are these on top of the Titan aircraft?
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Everyone uses Titan....
And they love us for it !
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Spot the mistake. EJ are paying for inept management. Nothing to do with maintenance. They duck but they can't hide.
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So as you can see they are not short of crews, how blind are the CAA and l wonder why no one objected, or maybe they have.
You may not have noticed, but they are European and consequently the CAA have no say in the matter in terms of refusing the arrangement on that basis.
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So they're not short of crews?

A budget airline is cancelling 29 flights from Newcastle this month because of a lack of trained staff.
EasyJet said it cannot get its cabin crew security checked quickly enough to fill posts.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/5248050.stm
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What l was trying to point out, is that the post from Oblique96 said that two web sites stated that they were leasing because of a shortage of crews.
Now l am sure easyjet would not of told the CAA a load of porkies, now would they?
We all know that easy are short of crews and l will also point out that so are most airlines in this country at the moment.
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More precisely they are short of Cabin Crew.

Due to the intake of 700 new crew into the single fleet at LGW, BA have taken a lot of experianced crews for the charter ops and particularly the Loco's.

Replacing these people takes time due to disclosure forms etc.

Incidentally this situation was anticipated by BA as a fringe benafit of the single fleet transition at LGW.
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There is a shortage of crews and then the is a SHORTAGE OF CREWS!

easyJet are in the latter situation!
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Originally Posted by -8AS
Are these on top of the Titan aircraft?
Yes, AWC aicraft are in on an ongoing contract till the end of the summer using 737s but a 757 is be subbed in on ocassion.
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Well, lately we have lost a few cabin crew in LTN looks like things are getting worst......I am bemused that easy are not telling passengers the truth.....

Let`s hope things get better as I am on minimun rest almost everyday.....


Come on let`s find some more crews
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I went to Barcelona on the Futura a couple of weeks back out of Liverpool. I have to say it was the dirtiest cabin I have ever been a passenger in! There was rubbish everywhere.

Also, there were safety cards missing from the seat pockets around mine and the cc 'giggled' throughout their cabin safety brief. Not the best possible way of keeping Easyjet's good reputation.

The flight home on an Easy 73 was much better and the crew superb. Well done to them.

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FUA

I worked for ezy a few years ago and a flight I was rostered for operate as subbed to FUA. As the sccm that meant to be on the flight, I still had to be on the flight (checked in as a passenger) as a 'rep' for ezy in the pax had any questions. When we got to BCN, the crew got off to go shopping. When I asked about the cleaning of the cabin, they said that the crew were not paid to do that, but ezy wouldn't pay for cleaners, thus the a/c stayed a tip.
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Might be worth taking that up with your management as it leaves a very bad impression for pax....

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Originally Posted by Off Stand
I worked for ezy a few years ago and a flight I was rostered for operate as subbed to FUA. As the sccm that meant to be on the flight, I still had to be on the flight (checked in as a passenger) as a 'rep' for ezy in the pax had any questions. When we got to BCN, the crew got off to go shopping. When I asked about the cleaning of the cabin, they said that the crew were not paid to do that, but ezy wouldn't pay for cleaners, thus the a/c stayed a tip.
We had the same thing happen at Jet2 when we leased from FUA. Aparantly the FUA crew stood at the front eating crew meals whilst watching the Jet2 rep prepare the cabin on the turn around. I heard of one instance where the FUA crew mocked and laughed at the jet2 rep whilst he/she cleaned the cabin. Crew meals seemed to be the most important thing to the FUA crew. First things first on a 50 min AMS was to eat the crew meals, then serve the pax after. Also, heard how a 1 hour delay was caused whilst they waited for an additional crew meal to be brought to the aircraft for a crew member that was being carried as supernumary!
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Good for the Futura crew I say!!!!.The primary role of cabin crew colleagues is flight safety and security not aircraft cleaning and pandering to the needs of passengers who have paid pocket money fares.Also on a 12 hour duty period adequate meal/refreshment are essential ,not a luxury again the Futura crews would seem to have the right idea.It amazes me that Easy and Ryan can get people to work in their squalid cabins working atrociously long hours serving a public that expects air travel at way below its true value.
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Indeed, very good for the FUA crew, at least they have a few priorities straight!

The meaning of "quality of life" is something that very few in the UK will ever understand.

Brits can be just as superficial as Americans when it comes to money and will bend over backwards for a few extra quid: sell back leave days, fly 900 hours/year with 20 minute turn arounds and eat disgusting greasy crew meals after the crew have done their service.
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The primary role of cabin crew colleagues is flight safety and security not aircraft cleaning and pandering to the needs of passengers
I wouldn't have any faith in a crew who were obsessed by consuming crew meals and mocked and smirked at another company's representative who was preparing a cabin while they stuffed their faces. You really reckon these same people are going to suddenly be transformed in their work ethic when it comes to matters "flight safety and security"?

My expectation would be that a crew who behaved like that would also be the first people down the slides and onto the grass if things went pear-shaped....
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