Channex Crew Breathalysed
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Re my earlier comments - on the other Channex thread - it looks like the following people now appear neither as big nor as clever as they thought they were (public apologies will be accepted here): HalesAndPace/Vmike/ragspanner/harpy/freight doggydog/Top Loadie/Ontheairwaves/Genghis McCann/Dutchie/GasHog. Thank you one and all.
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My own personal thoughts on Channel was that it is perhaps a "personalities" airline,I mean when you had a check pilot who is nicknamed the " Destroyer", what impression does that convey???
I can certainly think of another while I'm at it -who could only all to well be identified so I won't refer to her/him by name.
Certainly not necessarily the standard implied by Messr McGann.
I know of a few pilots who were shafted while there, one in particular who had given long service to them.
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I can certainly think of another while I'm at it -who could only all to well be identified so I won't refer to her/him by name.
Certainly not necessarily the standard implied by Messr McGann.
I know of a few pilots who were shafted while there, one in particular who had given long service to them.
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Barcode ,
i feel no inclination or more importantly ,no reason to apologise.
How you can make a connection between the successful handling of an inflight emergency & an 'alleged' incident of drinking on duty beggars belief !. I'm afraid that all this proves to me is that my original impression ,'that you have an axe to grind where this company is concerned',was correct!.
i feel no inclination or more importantly ,no reason to apologise.
How you can make a connection between the successful handling of an inflight emergency & an 'alleged' incident of drinking on duty beggars belief !. I'm afraid that all this proves to me is that my original impression ,'that you have an axe to grind where this company is concerned',was correct!.
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Barcode -
Like all the other contributors mentioned in your reply, I have absolutely nothing to apologise for. You are even more foolish than I had thought from your last thread. I assume that you must have refused a job or been bombed out in the simulator because you were not up to it. Whatever the reason you are sadly mistaken.
I have never suggested Channex is perfect but they are a whole lot better than many other airlines. If these allegations are shown to be true then no rational person is going to say that Channex is a company of drunks anymore than BA is. The tone of your reply seems to suggest that because one bloke may have been incredibly foolish, somehow the whole airline is at it and your prejudices are thereby confirmed.
I stand by my previous assertion that Channex are a first class outfit with high standards and as this unfortunate bloke will find out, they will have zero tolerance of drinking and flying. As I have said previously, I wish them well as a company and have every confidence in their safe and successful future.
Like all the other contributors mentioned in your reply, I have absolutely nothing to apologise for. You are even more foolish than I had thought from your last thread. I assume that you must have refused a job or been bombed out in the simulator because you were not up to it. Whatever the reason you are sadly mistaken.
I have never suggested Channex is perfect but they are a whole lot better than many other airlines. If these allegations are shown to be true then no rational person is going to say that Channex is a company of drunks anymore than BA is. The tone of your reply seems to suggest that because one bloke may have been incredibly foolish, somehow the whole airline is at it and your prejudices are thereby confirmed.
I stand by my previous assertion that Channex are a first class outfit with high standards and as this unfortunate bloke will find out, they will have zero tolerance of drinking and flying. As I have said previously, I wish them well as a company and have every confidence in their safe and successful future.
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Barcode
There is no way that you can compare these two incidents while trying (and failing) to justify your ridiculous comments on these two threads. Seeing as there is no chance of you ever recieving any form of apology from anyone, I guess you'll just keep quiet now. Just as you did on the previous thread!
Back to the bottom of the pond for you, ********!
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You cannot hold a company responsible for the actions of an individual. Companies (and the authorities) have rules and procedures in place regarding consumption of alcohol and crews are well aware of these. The penalties are well known to all.
Only if this rumour does turn out to be true and if nothing is done by Channex, can we then begin to question the involvement of the company itself.
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There is no way that you can compare these two incidents while trying (and failing) to justify your ridiculous comments on these two threads. Seeing as there is no chance of you ever recieving any form of apology from anyone, I guess you'll just keep quiet now. Just as you did on the previous thread!
Back to the bottom of the pond for you, ********!
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You cannot hold a company responsible for the actions of an individual. Companies (and the authorities) have rules and procedures in place regarding consumption of alcohol and crews are well aware of these. The penalties are well known to all.
Only if this rumour does turn out to be true and if nothing is done by Channex, can we then begin to question the involvement of the company itself.
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Why make allowances for people who are abusing alcohol. There is no difference between flying an aircraft or driving a vehicle while intoxicated. The same penalties should apply. There should be zero tolerance in the aviation industry towards individuals who are unprofessional enough as to arrive at work under the influence.
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Barcode,
Let's follow your reasoning. If an individual employee breaks the company rule the company sucks??????
Well actually you might be right Barcode. I know of a Captain of Virgin who ran a red light.. Boy that must be an unsafe company... Oh, and I understand that a BMI FO smoked some dope when he was 16.. Isn't BMI an unprofessional company...
I don't know what your problem is but your limited mental capacity is starting to show...
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I'd rather be flying...
Let's follow your reasoning. If an individual employee breaks the company rule the company sucks??????
Well actually you might be right Barcode. I know of a Captain of Virgin who ran a red light.. Boy that must be an unsafe company... Oh, and I understand that a BMI FO smoked some dope when he was 16.. Isn't BMI an unprofessional company...
I don't know what your problem is but your limited mental capacity is starting to show...
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I'd rather be flying...
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Beleive it is bad mannered to describe a fellow ppruner's mental ability in such a way. Can lead to confrontational issues
Try the term Mentally challenged it is so PC don't you think.
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Beleive it is bad mannered to describe a fellow ppruner's mental ability in such a way. Can lead to confrontational issues
Try the term Mentally challenged it is so PC don't you think.
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Lets get back to the thread ,i an told that it is true that a captain was tested and found over the limit ,he was however NOT channel express staff but he was on a short term contract via an agency.
I am sure that Channel express will have no truck with drinking and flying and will take the action that the situation requires.
I am sure that Channel express will have no truck with drinking and flying and will take the action that the situation requires.
