Industrial action ..... unfortunately .
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Maastricht UAC handled 4217 flights today.
0630- 1000 last Friday you handled 1152 flights
Latest word is that the strike may be extended to 2300, that would affect over 4000 flights.
0630- 1000 last Friday you handled 1152 flights
Latest word is that the strike may be extended to 2300, that would affect over 4000 flights.
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If Maastricht reduce to 3 sectors per UAC with standard capacities delays will be around 22, 000 minutes before re-routeing and level capping.
If the strike is extended with the same criteria to 2300, delays will exceed 316,000 minutes (without counting recovery regulations afterwards).
If the strike is extended with the same criteria to 2300, delays will exceed 316,000 minutes (without counting recovery regulations afterwards).
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Flowman.excuse me for asking how did you come up with those figures?
I have a degree in mathematics but wouldn't know where to start working that out.Quite impressive.
One thing for sure, you are correct in suggesting it would be one heck of a day in delay.
I have a degree in mathematics but wouldn't know where to start working that out.Quite impressive.
One thing for sure, you are correct in suggesting it would be one heck of a day in delay.
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Yes, as Avman says. We've got a bloody great machine that does all that. We can simulate a given ACC configuration and input appropriate capacities onto known traffic demand.
The answer in this case = enormous delays
The answer in this case = enormous delays
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..... and why ? because Maastricht has always had the capacity and willingness to accept any extra traffic , which could not go via France for example . Management always encouraged this and up went the traffic figures making it the most efficient centre in Europe . Flexibility , efficiency and safety is the name of the game ..... up to a certain point .
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What has not been mentioned so far is that FFPE (the union representing IFPU staff and some FMD controllers) has also issued a notice to strike to Eurocontrol management. If the two strikes co-incide it will be absolute mayhem.
Expect the world cup to be a clue as to exact timings.
Expect the world cup to be a clue as to exact timings.
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No Strike in Germany
Originally Posted by BYveterangirl
There are rumours that German ATC is also going out the same day. Can anyone confirm?
www.gdf.de is still in the negotiation-process with DFS-Management.
Expect Strike earliest at the end of June.
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If Maastricht reckon they have to strike, then so be it!
As a customer of Maastricht (80 % of my flts go through Maastricht) I have nothing but respect for the service they provide. They are extremly helpfull, flexible and willing to do what ever is nececssary. Without the Maastricht ops room we would realy be up the creek.
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As a customer of Maastricht (80 % of my flts go through Maastricht) I have nothing but respect for the service they provide. They are extremly helpfull, flexible and willing to do what ever is nececssary. Without the Maastricht ops room we would realy be up the creek.
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To Captain numb nuts, wonderful literary piece, worthy of most politicians... me thinks it's too late... yep..... too late.... the whole of your head has disappeared up your 'nether regions' . I have heard that if you say things often enough, no matter the subject you start believing them to be true, no?
Anyway let's discuss management... Just look at the promotions made over the past 18 months? Some of them truly astounding! And by that I mean bad... A few words spring to mind.....incompetent, indecisive, lack of man-management abilities, and normally useless at their former primary job. "Captain" (oh dear... delusions of grandeur??) I don't doubt for a second that you fit one of the above, or maybe you are a loyal "golfer"?
Anyway let's discuss management... Just look at the promotions made over the past 18 months? Some of them truly astounding! And by that I mean bad... A few words spring to mind.....incompetent, indecisive, lack of man-management abilities, and normally useless at their former primary job. "Captain" (oh dear... delusions of grandeur??) I don't doubt for a second that you fit one of the above, or maybe you are a loyal "golfer"?
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It's very sad to see you Maastricht folks have to go down the industrial action road! I do however FULLY support your actions as they are the sad result of continued failure of your management in their dealings/treatment of yourselves.
You are not a militant unit, your record and industry reputation is up there with the best of ACC's. I know such a group of professional folk won't have taken this decision either lightly, or with any joy......
The charter industry will be severly disrupted by your action, unlike schedules we can't just cancel flights. The whole of this coming weekend will be a nightmare, and I along with many others will probably have their whole weekends worth of work and leisure time turned upside down as a result
If my flight is running say 6 hours late - my working day/night will run 6 hours late also......... not fun be assured.
This aside, again I state I fully support your action - I hope your management take note and realise that user support and sympathy is with the front line staff, not with them.
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You are not a militant unit, your record and industry reputation is up there with the best of ACC's. I know such a group of professional folk won't have taken this decision either lightly, or with any joy......
The charter industry will be severly disrupted by your action, unlike schedules we can't just cancel flights. The whole of this coming weekend will be a nightmare, and I along with many others will probably have their whole weekends worth of work and leisure time turned upside down as a result
If my flight is running say 6 hours late - my working day/night will run 6 hours late also......... not fun be assured.
This aside, again I state I fully support your action - I hope your management take note and realise that user support and sympathy is with the front line staff, not with them.
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From a thread in Jet Blast, unfortunately it sums up management's attitude
Nice to see the gestures of support from the airline industry
The decision to strike was not taken lightly The staff at Maastricht have always tried to go the extra mile for our customers. One of the first lessons drummed into trainees was, "We're down here because they're up there; not the other way around."
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Nice to see the gestures of support from the airline industry
The decision to strike was not taken lightly The staff at Maastricht have always tried to go the extra mile for our customers. One of the first lessons drummed into trainees was, "We're down here because they're up there; not the other way around."
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Flowman,
The public viewable sections of the CFMU website seem to carry no news of this action as yet. Have all operators been informed? What is the CFMU's contingency advise to carriers regarding re-routing etc?
Seems it's all going to be last minute panic, with no one grabbing this issue by the horns at an early stage.
Hope I'm wrong!!
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The public viewable sections of the CFMU website seem to carry no news of this action as yet. Have all operators been informed? What is the CFMU's contingency advise to carriers regarding re-routing etc?
Seems it's all going to be last minute panic, with no one grabbing this issue by the horns at an early stage.
Hope I'm wrong!!
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Having watched this thread develope over the past few days, I'd like to thank both Eurobrit and 30W for their words of support. It's heartening to know that our normal level of service is both noted and appreciated. I hope this coming Friday doesn't prove too arduous for either of you but, you can rest assured, if you are flying after the flood gates open again, we'll be working our nuts off to get the show back on the road and you guys home again, as quickly as we can. Thanks again for your support.
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There is an AIM under construction by management, I don't think it will tell you anything you don't know already.
The strike will be dealt with as any other strike: measures will be applied pre-tactically based on the information available at day minus one. Re-routeing advice will be given on the same basis.
The situation is developing all the time so to publish information too early would be counter productive. For example up until a few minutes ago it was thought that IFPU would be going on stike on the same day. That has now been changed to the 15th.
The Maastricht union also expects a degree of solidarity from neighbouring ACCs so any re-routeing advice issued without consideration of that would also be less than helpful.
It's not a case of last minute panic, more a case of wait and see and deal with it like any other strike.
There is an AIM under construction by management, I don't think it will tell you anything you don't know already.
The strike will be dealt with as any other strike: measures will be applied pre-tactically based on the information available at day minus one. Re-routeing advice will be given on the same basis.
The situation is developing all the time so to publish information too early would be counter productive. For example up until a few minutes ago it was thought that IFPU would be going on stike on the same day. That has now been changed to the 15th.
The Maastricht union also expects a degree of solidarity from neighbouring ACCs so any re-routeing advice issued without consideration of that would also be less than helpful.
It's not a case of last minute panic, more a case of wait and see and deal with it like any other strike.