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Old 18th Jun 2001, 13:58
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Rusty A300
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It's being said more and more often here, and I believe that it's time the POWERS that be, start paying attention to it: I'm getting just a little tired of all the tiny padlocks and thread closed signs showing up here at pprune. The constant transfering of threads to other forums, and the notion that a question may not be asked in rumours and news, even if it's a question about a rumour or news, beats me. What are we running here, a one-party-state? Oh darn, a question. And it's not even about a rumour or news. I guess you'll have to move this one too! Or even better; why don't you just have the last word and then close the thread, Robert Mugabe?
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 14:11
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Grow up. If we don't take the action we do with moving threads then really really interesting R&N threads can 'dissapear' onto page 2 within 30 mins at peak times.

We are a victim of our own success in many ways. You'll just have to learn to use the alternative forums as much as you like to use R&N.

As always we are open to suggestions on how to improve editorial control and decision making.

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Old 18th Jun 2001, 14:47
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WWW, that might make some sense if you actually MOVED the threads you padlock, but you don't... you leave them sitting in R&N with a padlock and then replicate them on the target forum. The explanation as to what you have done is not at all obvious, which is why we waste so much bandwidth on "why has my thread been deleted?" threads. At the moment, you will go to page two of R&N just as quickly as if you had never "moved" it in the first place! It is still on R&N, just not ALL of it.

Why not put a note in the index page as to where it has gone, that would make it easier for everyone- or just re-direct the target of the thread title?

As it is at the moment, it is illogical and confusing...
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 15:07
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WWW, your name implies that you need to do the growing up! I'm 6'3", no more growing up for me thanks. Secondly, I dont dispute that some threads (like this one) end up in the wrong forum. All I'm saying is move them if you have to, but do it logically. And STOP CENSORING this board!
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 16:18
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Well I always post a note saying where the thread has been moved to and then move it and pdalock the original. If others don't then its by ommission. There is an automated feature for doing this in the pipeline or did I dream that it was working the other day already..? Danny?

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Old 18th Jun 2001, 16:31
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RustyA300

I have an idea why don't you set up a free board using your own money, free time and effort. You can then allow people to clog it up with entirely inappropriate and often quite pointless threads.

Then the guys that run PPRuNe won't have to put up with the abuse and criticism that they currently have to put up with from those telling them how to spend their time and their money.

I disagree with your criticism and I suggest your tone leaves something to be desired.
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 17:04
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M.Mouse - Clearly, you are but a child, still wet behind the ears. If you think that "own money" is financing this lot, then you have a lot to learn. What do you think all those ad's you're looking at are doing here? And why do you think the advertisers put them there in the first place? And do you think they would place them there if nobody frequented this site? Dream on China!

Furthermore, as you are entitled to an (all be it ill-informed) opinion, when one opens up a forum such as this pprune, then one had better get used to the idea that there will be criticism, good and bad, from the users. That's an ingrained principle of democracy if you hadn't noticed.

So, having completed printing out your post: I now sit in the smallest room in the house, I have your letter before me, soon I shall have it behind me!
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 17:12
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As you can see, I am new to this site. Having looked around here for a couple of days, I must admit that I do agree with Rusty and Raw Data. Unless you've been skating these floors for some time already, all the closed threads can be quite confusing. Also, I would have thought that questions another Forum would be allowed in that forum instead of being "bannished" to the questions forum regardless?
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 18:04
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What's the matter Rusty, can't afford any bog roll?

Keep it up and with any luck you'll soon head the way of the departed "Captain Ed".
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 18:16
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What are you trying to say Down...? Is this the kind of site where a guy who is prepared to say his say, or stand up and be counted, has to fear being chucked out? If that is the case, turf me out with him!!!
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 18:22
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You see now; you guys are slinging mud big-time, when my only point was (still is) that I thought that thread closing could be done a little less autocratically and a little more sensibly!?
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 18:28
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Rusty A300,

I think you will find that PPRuNe advertising is there just to cover costs of running the site. I would be very very surprised if Danny etc. were making any money out of this site.

PPRuNe is run by people who volunteer their time and effort and provide the service at no charge to it’s users. As someone said in an earlier debate, it’s their sandcastle so they are entitled to run it how they choose.

If you are really that annoyed, go to another flying related Bulletin Board, or create your own and run it how you choose.

Have a good one, Dave.


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Old 18th Jun 2001, 18:37
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Dave -

Clearly you should go back and read what I said again. Why should I look for another board or start my own? What's that all about?Clearly a lot of people here take criticism too personally.

Am I only good enough to post on this board as long as I'm brown-nosing those who run it and saying the things that Dave likes hearing said?

If I were running this board I'd take criticism one of two ways; I'd either use it constructively, or I'd take it with a pinch of salt! I certainly wouldn't be threatening people who disagreed with me though.
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 18:43
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A little touchy there huh, Dave Incompleto...?
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 19:01
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You can tell exactly how well this site is run, and how many people feel it is well worth the effort by the number of subscribed members there are.

It is not a democracy. It is a privately-owned website. Danny and Co. make no money from it. They put their own time (unpaid) into running it. They have the right to censor it if they so wish.

If you have constructive suggestions to make about how it can be improved, I'm sure they would listen sympathetically. I have to admit, however, that I did not read the first post in this thread as constructive criticism.

Finally, if you don't like what goes on here, you still have a choice about coming here!

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Old 18th Jun 2001, 19:03
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I don’t care if people don’t agree with my viewpoint etc.

I do care when people take this bulletin board for granted, and believe they can post anything they want.

If you have been around here for a while, you would know that there have been numerous threats to close down Jet Blast, while Dunnunda an Godzone was shut down for a cooling off period because people thought they could post anything they wanted.

I’m not saying your initial suggestion was bad, (I too find the locked threads that don’t have an explanation a tad annoying), just don’t expect that the site will always be run how you want it to be run.

Have a good one, Dave.


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Old 18th Jun 2001, 19:12
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Dave, your point is redundant. If you have something to say, by all means do so. But don't accuse me of wanting "the site run how I want it run." I reiterate: go back and read my postings again. I'm sure you'll find there's nothing offensive or selfish about them at all.

A wise man speaks because he has something to say.
A fool speaks because he has to say something.
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 19:20
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Rusty. I have read all of your posts on this thread, and, with the exception (possibly) of one, you have managed to be aggresive/insulting in each one. Re-read them if you don't believe me - but I am entitled to an opinion!
You ask in your first post "are we running a one party state" (or words to that effect). Two points come out of that.
1. "We" are not running anything - Danny and his team are
2. Yes, if you want to put it that way. Danny owns the site, Danny decides how the site is run. Posts on the wrong forum are padlocked and moved. Thats the way it is. Just like the bills go to danny's house, as do any legal stuff when peopole have said the wrong thing (yes, Danny has been threatened many times). So, now you know how it is, we can all get on with PPRuNe in the way the owner wants it run. Can't we?
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 19:27
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I'd like to point you two bodyguards in the direction of the Guestbook on this Board. It reads; "Visitors Book

Please take a few moments to fill out this form and provide some details so I can keep this site to your liking." With those words, I'm sure the owners do not expect me to agree with everything they do, nor do I believe that they will object as vociferously as the two of you.

PS: You've read all 50 odd of my postings? You following me or do you just like me a lot?
 
Old 18th Jun 2001, 19:27
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Rusty

If you were genuine you'd have been deleted (not moved/padlocked) in about 10 minutes.

WARNING. This is a fishing expedition to see who supports 'Rusty' (almost certainly an anagram of captainpprune - yes the very same!!!!)

 


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