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Old 11th Apr 2006, 13:08
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You can declare an emergency and land below minima if absolutely sure the aircraft will crash if you do not land.
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Old 11th Apr 2006, 15:06
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Jagbag, is that what it says in your operations manual? wow...
And here I always thought that deviating from established rules and regulations, as well as declaring emergency was a decision a Pic could make if he deemed either to be beneficial to the safety of the flight... More things must have changed in JAA regs since the last time I checked
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Old 11th Apr 2006, 16:25
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Comes to the same thing don't it?
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Old 11th Apr 2006, 18:38
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Some people seem to be getting a bit hot under the collar about the actions of the flight crew in this incident. I would have thought that most of the investigation would be aimed at why they had to deal with this situation in the first place, i.e. the unrelated multiple failures at the airport itself.

Just what did the crew do which was not compliant with JAR-OPS right up to the last minute?
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Old 12th Apr 2006, 13:50
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If Cat 3 had been downgraded to Cat 1 because of equipment failure, AND the aircraft is inside the FAF, the p-i-c is allowed to continue the approach. Look-see is allowed on any Cat 1 approach. Providing he has "adequate visual cues" to safely accomplish the landing, that is allowed. The aircraft doesn't know the difference, it just locks on and keeps on going. IF, however, the ILS LOC & GS had failed, that would be grounds for an immediate go-around. Sounds to me like the skipper made a good call. That's why he/she makes the big bucks.
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Old 16th Apr 2006, 03:42
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I'm a little confused, can someone clarify?...

Originally Posted by aeropers
Airport has electrical power problems: rvr and wind info no longer available. Aircraft therefore instructed to go-around, crew then declare short of fuel and emergency situation imminent.
Fair enough...

Originally Posted by aeropers
Crew commence approach, at final approach fix ATC informs that rvr below Cat1 minimum.
I thought the RVR and wind information were no longer available? How do they know the RVR is below Cat1 minimums now?
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Old 16th Apr 2006, 16:44
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RVR not required for Cat 1, only reported or observed visibility. Therefore look-see is permitted, or if inside FAF, allowed to continue approach.
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