Ryanair Ground Handling incident
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Ryanair incident
HI
yet again there has been another incident at STN involving a ryanair 737-800 and ramp equipment.
today on stand 62L a ramp agent removed the back steps and drove round the back of the CSN and straight in the back of the wing on the First officers side.
not so long ago another accident happened when a ramp agent drove a Baggage buggy into CL making a large hole in the side of the plane.
so all i can say is i would hate to be the insurance company for the handling agent swissport.
yet again there has been another incident at STN involving a ryanair 737-800 and ramp equipment.
today on stand 62L a ramp agent removed the back steps and drove round the back of the CSN and straight in the back of the wing on the First officers side.
not so long ago another accident happened when a ramp agent drove a Baggage buggy into CL making a large hole in the side of the plane.
so all i can say is i would hate to be the insurance company for the handling agent swissport.
Last edited by Genghis the Engineer; 5th December 2005 at 06:52.
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Min wage, so what!!! It dosen't give them the right to ram the aircraft.
What about the FOs with Astreaus they have to pay for 100 hours! Do they then get right to crash the aircraft becuase they're not getting paid?
Accidents happen, fair enough, but somtimes it's just stupidity.
IR
What about the FOs with Astreaus they have to pay for 100 hours! Do they then get right to crash the aircraft becuase they're not getting paid?
Accidents happen, fair enough, but somtimes it's just stupidity.
IR
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Not normally caused by "min wages" or "min care"- but Minimum Training - normally caused by a lack of money in contracts (as 'outsourced' from airlines)
These sort of things now account for many millions in insurance claims per year.
Therefore: (and after many HF investigations)
min contracts = min wages = min training = min knowledge = min care (= Lawyer wage increases!)
These sort of things now account for many millions in insurance claims per year.
Therefore: (and after many HF investigations)
min contracts = min wages = min training = min knowledge = min care (= Lawyer wage increases!)
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It also comes down to supervision. I know for a fact that with this handling agent (and others!) you can get away with "poor procedure" (I won't go as far as using the term "cutting corners") on a regular basis, but it will go unchallenged.
With many of these incidents there are often numerous "warning signs" and "near misses" which, if challenged, could have prevented the eventual accident. But hey, pro-active supervision costs money, so it just doesn't happen.
£50,000 per year for a couple of reasonable ramp supervisors is now looking like a bargain!!
With many of these incidents there are often numerous "warning signs" and "near misses" which, if challenged, could have prevented the eventual accident. But hey, pro-active supervision costs money, so it just doesn't happen.
£50,000 per year for a couple of reasonable ramp supervisors is now looking like a bargain!!
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From: Bucks
Woddya expect. Min wage =min care.
Not so true! I flew BA502 last thursday at LHR, 12.00, the aircraft was struck by a handling vehicle (the airstairs apparently), departure time was around 14.00, the handling staff at LHR are paid considerably more than those at STN!
Not so true! I flew BA502 last thursday at LHR, 12.00, the aircraft was struck by a handling vehicle (the airstairs apparently), departure time was around 14.00, the handling staff at LHR are paid considerably more than those at STN!
