United Pilot Suspended After Screeners at MIA Smell Alcohol
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Cunning TSA Drunk Pilot Trap Alert
The TSA of late have started putting the homeliest women imaginable at the crew line, certainly at KIAD. I mean we're talking ones that fell out the ugly tree and landed in the TSA recruiting office on the bottom branch....
It's a cunning trap. When the manager sees the poor defenceless pilot start to smile, then leer at her, wink, then attempt to chat her up, they nab him on probable cause........works every time.
Cruel Swines!
It's a cunning trap. When the manager sees the poor defenceless pilot start to smile, then leer at her, wink, then attempt to chat her up, they nab him on probable cause........works every time.
Cruel Swines!
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Sorry, having re read what I wrote it didn't make it clear, in the UK there would usualy be a gap of 20 mins, IF the driver/pilot/train driver claims he has used it.
In reality, I have given a test to someone 2 minutes after they took a mouthful of mouthwash, and it was a big fat ZERO. In any event even if it wasn't, by the time an evidential test has taken place (A test conducted on a calibrated device at a Police Station) or a blood/urine test the mouth wash would be long gone. Unless of course the person had drunk the bottle, in which case they commit the offence anyway. The offence is alcohol in body, not liquor.
the_hawk
None that I have ever heard of, nor pickled onions/eggs or anything else,
Sorry, having re read what I wrote it didn't make it clear, in the UK there would usualy be a gap of 20 mins, IF the driver/pilot/train driver claims he has used it.
In reality, I have given a test to someone 2 minutes after they took a mouthful of mouthwash, and it was a big fat ZERO. In any event even if it wasn't, by the time an evidential test has taken place (A test conducted on a calibrated device at a Police Station) or a blood/urine test the mouth wash would be long gone. Unless of course the person had drunk the bottle, in which case they commit the offence anyway. The offence is alcohol in body, not liquor.
the_hawk
None that I have ever heard of, nor pickled onions/eggs or anything else,
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Considering that the captain on board an aircraft is the highest authority on board said aircraft and has the powers of arrest it would make for an interesting situation if this pilot had instructed police who had boarded to remove themselves under threat of arrest if they did not comply.I personally wouldn't like to try it, but it would certainly open a can of worms regarding jurisdiction.
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>>Considering that the captain on board an aircraft is the highest authority on board said aircraft and has the powers of arrest...<<
Maybe on the Love Boat, not on a U.S. airliner. Contrary to popular belief, he can't perform marriages for the duration of the layover either.
Maybe on the Love Boat, not on a U.S. airliner. Contrary to popular belief, he can't perform marriages for the duration of the layover either.
Stilton, aiming point
Well, yes, but......
Both issues are relevant, but do we REALLY want to tolerate FUI (Flying Under the Influence).
I'm frequently disturbed by a laissez-faire attitude in some of these forums, along the lines "It hasn't hurt anybody yet, so what's the deal"
Performance-degrading substances and the operation of machinery don't mix. Same goes for fatigue.
This isn't a trade-off and I can't for the life of me understand the significance of the reference to political correctness.
If you've been following the Ryanair thread, you'll see that the forced tolerance of fatigue is driven by shareholder value......
Well, yes, but......
Both issues are relevant, but do we REALLY want to tolerate FUI (Flying Under the Influence).
I'm frequently disturbed by a laissez-faire attitude in some of these forums, along the lines "It hasn't hurt anybody yet, so what's the deal"
Performance-degrading substances and the operation of machinery don't mix. Same goes for fatigue.
This isn't a trade-off and I can't for the life of me understand the significance of the reference to political correctness.
If you've been following the Ryanair thread, you'll see that the forced tolerance of fatigue is driven by shareholder value......
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United Alcohol policy
United's policy until not too long ago was 24 hours bottle to brief. They changed it a while back to 12 hours bottle to brief. I think they are saying it is strict as it is much more strict than the 8 hours prior to flying that the FAA mandates or the same here in Australia of 8 hours prior to flying.
