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Pitot_Head.
Oops Sorry. I thought I was just demonstrating a sense of humour.
However if you think that the runway should come first and the rest of the infrastructure later, then I can only hope that you are right. From my many years in and out of MAN (along with many similar airports throughout Europe), I constantly experience problems due to ground facilities shortages. Manchester is a classic example for having to push back off stand, to a remote location, with pax on board, whilst waiting for a slot, because there are not enough stands and another aircraft is waiting to 'dock'.
Cast your mind back as well to the end of last December when the freezing fog helped contribute to lengthy delays at Manchester due to insufficient de-icing equipment and machines.
I am all for the new runway and applaud those who have achieved it. Clearly though, if the aircraft movements are on the increase, then the infrastructure must be in place to support this. Without it there will be longer delays leading to airlines and passenger becoming less than pleased with the airport, resulting in 'bad press'. This would not be the accolade which we would all like Manchester Airport to receive.
Oops Sorry. I thought I was just demonstrating a sense of humour.
However if you think that the runway should come first and the rest of the infrastructure later, then I can only hope that you are right. From my many years in and out of MAN (along with many similar airports throughout Europe), I constantly experience problems due to ground facilities shortages. Manchester is a classic example for having to push back off stand, to a remote location, with pax on board, whilst waiting for a slot, because there are not enough stands and another aircraft is waiting to 'dock'.
Cast your mind back as well to the end of last December when the freezing fog helped contribute to lengthy delays at Manchester due to insufficient de-icing equipment and machines.
I am all for the new runway and applaud those who have achieved it. Clearly though, if the aircraft movements are on the increase, then the infrastructure must be in place to support this. Without it there will be longer delays leading to airlines and passenger becoming less than pleased with the airport, resulting in 'bad press'. This would not be the accolade which we would all like Manchester Airport to receive.
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Fair comments. Having previously been in mgt at an int apt in the south-east, I know the fine balance that needs to be tread, between offering airlines what they want and keeping congestion and ground holding to a minimum.
Unfortunately, as you rightly say, it is the chaps in the LH and RH seats that bear the brunt of pax frustrations, not those who above who put you in that position.
Let's hope MAN don't overschedule slots viz-a-viz capacity...or is that me being an idealist??!!!
Fair comments. Having previously been in mgt at an int apt in the south-east, I know the fine balance that needs to be tread, between offering airlines what they want and keeping congestion and ground holding to a minimum.
Unfortunately, as you rightly say, it is the chaps in the LH and RH seats that bear the brunt of pax frustrations, not those who above who put you in that position.
Let's hope MAN don't overschedule slots viz-a-viz capacity...or is that me being an idealist??!!!
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I must agree, to a certain extent, with Shaggy Sheep but add that political expedience also plays a factor. And having said that, if MAN ever needs a new terminal it will have to be alongside T1 or T2. I don't think there is a government with balls enough to allow further encroachment on the Bollin. Any way, if the airport expands any further west it will be in Liverpool :-))
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Shaggy,
There are plans for a new rail link to the airport mainly because of the need to increase the rail capacity from Crewe to Manchester. A new passenger rail line (using an existing freight line) will run from Sandbach to Middlewich, Northwich , Altringham under the runway to a new rail station next to the present one, then on to Manchester.
There are plans for a new rail link to the airport mainly because of the need to increase the rail capacity from Crewe to Manchester. A new passenger rail line (using an existing freight line) will run from Sandbach to Middlewich, Northwich , Altringham under the runway to a new rail station next to the present one, then on to Manchester.
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I agree that MAN management does a good job but how do u explain the irrational policies operated by the Property Management people - surely if you build a runway to increase business and you already know you are short of space for stands, office etc. you build more so that when your new runway opens, you have ALL of the facilities in place ?
MAN are in the process now of reshuffling tenants in T1 so that BM's transatlantic operations (which they only seem to have just heard about) can be fitted in.
If we operated our business the way they do we would be out of business very quickly !
MAN are in the process now of reshuffling tenants in T1 so that BM's transatlantic operations (which they only seem to have just heard about) can be fitted in.
If we operated our business the way they do we would be out of business very quickly !
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And yet I hear MAPLC has just bought East Mids and Southampton from National Express.
Is this true?
If so, they obviously know what they're doing.
I wonder will LPL be next??
There's a rumour for you
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There is a fast way along the travelator tube between T1 and T2, even if the travelator itself is u/s.
Get a trolley, put something heavy on the front (a flight case is ideal), get a good running start and ride the handlebars. You can get a good turn of spped out of those things, and it's more fun than the travelators.
Of course, it gets a litle embarrassing in full uniform, so it's worth keeping your raincoat on, and borrowing a hat from your major competitor...
Get a trolley, put something heavy on the front (a flight case is ideal), get a good running start and ride the handlebars. You can get a good turn of spped out of those things, and it's more fun than the travelators.
Of course, it gets a litle embarrassing in full uniform, so it's worth keeping your raincoat on, and borrowing a hat from your major competitor...
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T2 was designed from the outset for further expansion. The west pier to be extended to match the east pier with same no. of airbridges. The main hall has a temporary west wall as does the adjacent west pier facing the road. This will enable a 50% increase in floor area and check-ins, etc. If and when all this is done, T2 will be entirely symetrical about its centre-line. In addition, a remote pier was planned to be built out on the grass divider beyond the apron to be served by a dipping travelator, a la CDG T1. This may now have been forgotten since BA got their own house. Total capacity of T1 + T2 was intended to match RW capacity. Plans of mice and men?
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Thanks for the info, poobear. Will the rail route Northwich to the airport go as far east as Altrincham? I'd envisage a link from about Ashley to the airport station.
Any southside terminal would have to be somewhere around the 06R end of the new runway in Mobberley - there isn't room opposite the current terminals unless they fill in the Bollin Valey at Style - not an impossibility given what they've got away with so far :~(
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Any southside terminal would have to be somewhere around the 06R end of the new runway in Mobberley - there isn't room opposite the current terminals unless they fill in the Bollin Valey at Style - not an impossibility given what they've got away with so far :~(
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Is it correct that plans have been drawn up for the new T2 satellite/s, rumour control says it will where the cargo sheds, fuel farm and hangar 4 reside at the moment?
Also Charlie Pier will be demolished to allow for better flow of taxing aircraft to and from T2.
Also Charlie Pier will be demolished to allow for better flow of taxing aircraft to and from T2.
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I have just seen the development plans for Manchester. The development plan covers the development of the airport upto 2020.
The first stage of development is to extend T2 and to extend T3 from 55, both these extensions will allow aircraft stands on both sides of the pier. The final part of the first development stage is to have a satellite pier on the 230's and 80's stands now with an underground link. this development should be finished by 2010.
The rest of the development upto 2020 will allow another satellite pier which will be situated where the fuel farm and the cargo sheds are which will be connected to the first satellite link. To make room for this new satellite and to ease congestion Charlie pier will be demolished and Bravo pier realigned. It is rumoured that the satellites will be connected to both terminals.
The first stage of development is to extend T2 and to extend T3 from 55, both these extensions will allow aircraft stands on both sides of the pier. The final part of the first development stage is to have a satellite pier on the 230's and 80's stands now with an underground link. this development should be finished by 2010.
The rest of the development upto 2020 will allow another satellite pier which will be situated where the fuel farm and the cargo sheds are which will be connected to the first satellite link. To make room for this new satellite and to ease congestion Charlie pier will be demolished and Bravo pier realigned. It is rumoured that the satellites will be connected to both terminals.
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On a slightly different note, does anyone know of any new services for 2001 starting from Manchester. I know BM are starting services to destinations in the USA but if anyone knows of any other new flights I would like to know, particularly what airline it. Many thanks.
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Bulgarian Air Charter with Tu 154s
Malmo Aviation 146s/RJ???
Excel 738s/762s
Sun Express 738s
also Icelandair 757s operating for Scandic over the weekends.African Star now looks like an August start up and Transaero now put on hold as BA and SU have objected to the slots.
Bulgarian Air Charter with Tu 154s
Malmo Aviation 146s/RJ???
Excel 738s/762s
Sun Express 738s
also Icelandair 757s operating for Scandic over the weekends.African Star now looks like an August start up and Transaero now put on hold as BA and SU have objected to the slots.
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And still the ex-MAN property boom continues with every commerical letting agent in south Manchester saying " Oh are you a company moving out of the airport ?" to every prospective tenant !
If MAPLC take a bashing here, it's cos they deserve it, perhaps they should concentrate on getting MAN right before tackling other airports.
Heck, they even have Business Development Managers telling their clients they have to move out ! Now what was is that to run a business !
If MAPLC take a bashing here, it's cos they deserve it, perhaps they should concentrate on getting MAN right before tackling other airports.
Heck, they even have Business Development Managers telling their clients they have to move out ! Now what was is that to run a business !