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Off the topic here..
Any young Ek pilots here? ie.. under 30. I fly for an australian airline and most of us are in the 25-30 bracket.
Were all young and full of energy.. Able to work the hours that emirates put on their pilots. Maybe retirement should go back to 50? You old guys can't even move the speed break lever because your all overweight and have athritis in your hands..
Any Australian Emirates pilots? Pls msg me..
Any young Ek pilots here? ie.. under 30. I fly for an australian airline and most of us are in the 25-30 bracket.
Were all young and full of energy.. Able to work the hours that emirates put on their pilots. Maybe retirement should go back to 50? You old guys can't even move the speed break lever because your all overweight and have athritis in your hands..
Any Australian Emirates pilots? Pls msg me..
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Bantios....
Either you are trying to stir people up for a laugh, or you are very naiive and uninformed.....either way it does not reflect well on you.......
I suggest you try flying long and medium haul accross multiple time zones, with consecutive flight patterns crossing to Europe, the USA, and Asia, then you might start to understand what is being discussed. You would soon realise that being 18 years old would not help you as much as you think, let alone mid to late 20's.
I suggest you finalise your retirement plans, seeing as you yourself will be retiring by the age of 50, as by then you too will be incapable of climbing the steps into the crew bus. (Thats if your stupid comments have not inspired someone to break both your legs before you reach that age).
Either you are trying to stir people up for a laugh, or you are very naiive and uninformed.....either way it does not reflect well on you.......
I suggest you try flying long and medium haul accross multiple time zones, with consecutive flight patterns crossing to Europe, the USA, and Asia, then you might start to understand what is being discussed. You would soon realise that being 18 years old would not help you as much as you think, let alone mid to late 20's.
I suggest you finalise your retirement plans, seeing as you yourself will be retiring by the age of 50, as by then you too will be incapable of climbing the steps into the crew bus. (Thats if your stupid comments have not inspired someone to break both your legs before you reach that age).
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bantios,
yes...there are many Australians here, thankfully not many have the same attitude you do.
As far as your age, I will accept that you are young, and I know you are full of SOMETHING. Although I am one of those approaching 50, I am sure I could take one of my arthritic hands, place it around your young, scrawny neck and squeeze the living sh*t out of you. Not all of us are fat and out of shape.
Come on in, the water is fine...
yes...there are many Australians here, thankfully not many have the same attitude you do.
As far as your age, I will accept that you are young, and I know you are full of SOMETHING. Although I am one of those approaching 50, I am sure I could take one of my arthritic hands, place it around your young, scrawny neck and squeeze the living sh*t out of you. Not all of us are fat and out of shape.
Come on in, the water is fine...
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I love the replys..
No.. im not a nasty person. And if you were a bit more professional you would ignore my stupid comments rather than reply back with abuse.
My whole point is..
Everyone here is complaining about this and that.. long hours.. under pay.. no sleep.. no holidays.. blah blah blah...
You should be greatful that you have a job, food to eat and water to drink. There are many pilots out there trying to get into the industry. Being a pilot is not a 9-5 job and you have to expect the long hours, little sleep, etc. If you dont like the industry.. LEAVE. It's as simple as that. I have a freind who flys for emirates, and I agree they push their pilots to the limits, but with their ever expanding fleet, increased routes and a shortage of pilots, you'de have to expect that it is only temporary.
You all sound like a bunch of women. (although women do make good pilots)
No.. im not a nasty person. And if you were a bit more professional you would ignore my stupid comments rather than reply back with abuse.
My whole point is..
Everyone here is complaining about this and that.. long hours.. under pay.. no sleep.. no holidays.. blah blah blah...
You should be greatful that you have a job, food to eat and water to drink. There are many pilots out there trying to get into the industry. Being a pilot is not a 9-5 job and you have to expect the long hours, little sleep, etc. If you dont like the industry.. LEAVE. It's as simple as that. I have a freind who flys for emirates, and I agree they push their pilots to the limits, but with their ever expanding fleet, increased routes and a shortage of pilots, you'de have to expect that it is only temporary.
You all sound like a bunch of women. (although women do make good pilots)
Well Bandyo's remember the Aussie mantra "slip, slop,slap",( to do with sun protection- or maybe how to treat the Shelias) I think that you should give it a try as the sun has fried what little brains that you have......
20 or 3 times that -- you would still be f*****d after some of our more colourful rostering practices....
20 or 3 times that -- you would still be f*****d after some of our more colourful rostering practices....
I've only made a few posts so I don't feel the need to order a Personal Title and help support PPRuNe
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Loks like Bantios is one of those enthusiastic wannabes who has recently landed his first jet job on a B737. Of course, with his ultra long haul experience in that aircraft type and something a mate of a mate of a mate who works for Emirates mentioned to him, he is now in a position to pontificate on how all the experienced pilots should go for early retirement so the likes him can get a job flying the glamorous heavy metal to exotic destinations.
His time will come and I'll bet a pound to a penny that within a year or two of flying real (as opposed to fantasy) long haul, he'll either be on here whingeing about the debilitating effects of repetitive circadian disruption or else he'll be too knackered and give us all a break from his sage advice!
His time will come and I'll bet a pound to a penny that within a year or two of flying real (as opposed to fantasy) long haul, he'll either be on here whingeing about the debilitating effects of repetitive circadian disruption or else he'll be too knackered and give us all a break from his sage advice!
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I currently fly with a well known british airline and i have always wanted to work for emirates. After reading this post i am all the more determined to join emirates...that exhuastive schedule sounds fun 
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if you dont like the industry.. LEAVE
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Woah, hold on. Yes, I do want to LEAVE.....not leave the Industry...but leave to a Better Company! I LOVE flying (but I'm not in EK)
Anyway, a hectic life and roster is not only at Emirates.... for example it's a natural fact for the low cost carriers. Just the way it is. But there are other better full service airlines to go to (even for Emirates pilots)
bantios, I'm sure they are all big boys and girls at EK that CAN handle the heat. But I do understand that they just wouldn't want to take it on a permanant basis and have a condition that is supposed to be better for the airline that it is. If they were in a low cost carrier...they'll still b1tch and moan, believe me... But that's just the facts of life. And they'll look to improve their present comapany, or move to another one.
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if you dont like the industry.. LEAVE
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Woah, hold on. Yes, I do want to LEAVE.....not leave the Industry...but leave to a Better Company! I LOVE flying
(but I'm not in EK)Anyway, a hectic life and roster is not only at Emirates.... for example it's a natural fact for the low cost carriers. Just the way it is. But there are other better full service airlines to go to (even for Emirates pilots)
bantios, I'm sure they are all big boys and girls at EK that CAN handle the heat. But I do understand that they just wouldn't want to take it on a permanant basis and have a condition that is supposed to be better for the airline that it is. If they were in a low cost carrier...they'll still b1tch and moan, believe me... But that's just the facts of life. And they'll look to improve their present comapany, or move to another one.
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Bantios you remind me so much of all the newbies joining this industry, and I've seen hundreds in my time. Hell, I was a newbie too ya know!
I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I meet a newbie like you.
On the one hand - you're a reminder to us all, how naiive and starry eyed we were when getting into the business.
On the other hand, I can't help but suppress a hollow laugh when I contemplate the lessons you are soon to learn.
Good luck.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I meet a newbie like you.
On the one hand - you're a reminder to us all, how naiive and starry eyed we were when getting into the business.
On the other hand, I can't help but suppress a hollow laugh when I contemplate the lessons you are soon to learn.
Good luck.
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Did you learn to butcher the English language all by yourself 'bantios' ? If your grammar is as good as your flying ability then go ahead and pull that speed 'break' lever. We will be 'greatful' when 'freinds' like you flush after themselves.
Damn athritis.
Damn athritis.
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Alright, may I suggest we give him a break.
bantios, sorry, this forum can be quite unforgiving, take it all in it's stride mate. But it's all serious points.
Now back to the Emirates thread...
bantios, sorry, this forum can be quite unforgiving, take it all in it's stride mate. But it's all serious points.
Now back to the Emirates thread...
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Guys,
Yes I am a newbie in the industry and I'm stupid and dumb, and arrogant. I love the replies you guys give. Thanks. It only grows me stronger as a person everyday.
Anyway, I am off to another flight. Time to punch some more buttons, do some calculations and engage my A/P, kick back and relax and eat the cheap n nasty food I get on board.
I do wish it was like back in the days on the 727.. Now thats real flying.
You guys still use a periscopic sextant?
Have a lovely day..
Yes I am a newbie in the industry and I'm stupid and dumb, and arrogant. I love the replies you guys give. Thanks. It only grows me stronger as a person everyday.
Anyway, I am off to another flight. Time to punch some more buttons, do some calculations and engage my A/P, kick back and relax and eat the cheap n nasty food I get on board.
I do wish it was like back in the days on the 727.. Now thats real flying.
You guys still use a periscopic sextant?
Have a lovely day..
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Bantios...
A good friend of mine works for EK --- 777 First Officer (28 years old FYI bantios ). His typical work pattern is DXB-Singapore-Sydney-Singapore-DXB with a BIT of rest at SG and SYD. Two days after arriving back from this into Dubai, he was off again on a very short flight somewhere (Doha I think he said) which was a day return, 3 more days rest and then DXB-BHX, rest in Birmingham for a short stay and then back to Dubai.
All in all he says he averages 9 days off per month and the fatigue is really starting to show - not him saying that but us friends noticing. So....let me state again, he is 28----fit, healthy, no arthritis and has more common sense than you appear to have and he is clearly showing the strain which is tight rostering at EK.
Think before you write things down buddy --- I think you have peed off quite a few people here with such comments.
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A good friend of mine works for EK --- 777 First Officer (28 years old FYI bantios ). His typical work pattern is DXB-Singapore-Sydney-Singapore-DXB with a BIT of rest at SG and SYD. Two days after arriving back from this into Dubai, he was off again on a very short flight somewhere (Doha I think he said) which was a day return, 3 more days rest and then DXB-BHX, rest in Birmingham for a short stay and then back to Dubai.
All in all he says he averages 9 days off per month and the fatigue is really starting to show - not him saying that but us friends noticing. So....let me state again, he is 28----fit, healthy, no arthritis and has more common sense than you appear to have and he is clearly showing the strain which is tight rostering at EK.
Think before you write things down buddy --- I think you have peed off quite a few people here with such comments.
CP