Ryanair launches legal action against pilots' union (merged)
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I copied this of the IAA website. Hmm.
Some safety regulation.
Welcome to the Irish Aviation Authority site.
The Board and Staff of the Irish Aviation Authority are committed to providing efficient and cost-effective safety regulation of the Irish aviation industry and to providing, on a sound commercial basis, safe, efficient and cost-effective air navigation services which meet the needs of our customers.
The Authority aims to be a world leader in its field.
The operational services include the provision of air traffic management, engineering and communications in airspace controlled by Ireland and the provision of the related air traffic technological infrastructure. The regulatory services include aircraft airworthiness certification and registration; the licensing of personnel and organisations involved in the maintenance of aircraft as well as the licensing of pilots and aerodromes. Also included is the approval and surveillance of air carrier operating standards and of general aviation. The IAA also provides international training and consultancy services worldwide.
The IAA ensures that Irish civil aviation operates to safety standards set internationally, principally by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO), European Joint Aviation Authorities (JAA), Eurocontrol, the European Civil Aviation Conference (ECAC) and the European Union.
Some safety regulation.
Welcome to the Irish Aviation Authority site.
The Board and Staff of the Irish Aviation Authority are committed to providing efficient and cost-effective safety regulation of the Irish aviation industry and to providing, on a sound commercial basis, safe, efficient and cost-effective air navigation services which meet the needs of our customers.
The Authority aims to be a world leader in its field.
The operational services include the provision of air traffic management, engineering and communications in airspace controlled by Ireland and the provision of the related air traffic technological infrastructure. The regulatory services include aircraft airworthiness certification and registration; the licensing of personnel and organisations involved in the maintenance of aircraft as well as the licensing of pilots and aerodromes. Also included is the approval and surveillance of air carrier operating standards and of general aviation. The IAA also provides international training and consultancy services worldwide.
The IAA ensures that Irish civil aviation operates to safety standards set internationally, principally by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO), European Joint Aviation Authorities (JAA), Eurocontrol, the European Civil Aviation Conference (ECAC) and the European Union.
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The IAA is run weak-willed jobsworths. It is run according to 3 codes: a) jobs for the Aer Corps boys, so nothing will be said that might upset any of their "brothers-in-arms" from the glorious Baldonnel days. This means turning a blind eye to the transgressions of every major Irish airline. b) what the politicians say. Note how half the cabinet was at O'Learys wedding. c) money is king so god forbid we upset the biggest contributors.
Expect nothing from the IAA that doesn't tie in with the above agenda. As proper and effective safety regulation does not, expect no proper and effective safety regulation.
Expect nothing from the IAA that doesn't tie in with the above agenda. As proper and effective safety regulation does not, expect no proper and effective safety regulation.
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The camel is going bald
Q. Which airline in the US is the most successful since 70s?
A. Southwest, which is 100% pilot unionised.
$51 a tub & still no hedging
No crews for arriving aircraft
Policy uturns at Dublin and Bergamo
Price €6.14 and on the slide again
Analyst's are speculating about a personnel change at the whitehouse in the short term.
The camel will be riding out of town soon.
A. Southwest, which is 100% pilot unionised.
$51 a tub & still no hedging
No crews for arriving aircraft
Policy uturns at Dublin and Bergamo
Price €6.14 and on the slide again
Analyst's are speculating about a personnel change at the whitehouse in the short term.
The camel will be riding out of town soon.
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There's an excellent book in softback at the moment, simply titled 'Ryanair', written by an Irish journo named Siobhan Creighton. I recommend it to you. As someone who knows many of the characters and stories personally I can vouch for its accuracy. Its an absorbing and entertaining read.
The one thing that struck me from the book is how O'Leary has cheekily grabbed all the credit for various fundamentals in the company - which other members of management actually had to fight against him to introduce. Like Conor McCarthys 30mins turnarounds, which Micko vehemently resisted until overruled by Tony Ryan.
And even the Ryanair.com website, which was sneaked in the backdoor as part of a new telesales handling package by a smart lady in sales and advertising...again without approval or backing from MOL. His boast at the time was that he didn't own or need a computer!
But ask the financial journos, or indeed the public, and they'll tell you O'Leary is the genius who thought it all up himself.
Poppycock.
Just like his protege Willy Walsh of ALT, his main skill is in self publicising and showboating.
The one thing that struck me from the book is how O'Leary has cheekily grabbed all the credit for various fundamentals in the company - which other members of management actually had to fight against him to introduce. Like Conor McCarthys 30mins turnarounds, which Micko vehemently resisted until overruled by Tony Ryan.
And even the Ryanair.com website, which was sneaked in the backdoor as part of a new telesales handling package by a smart lady in sales and advertising...again without approval or backing from MOL. His boast at the time was that he didn't own or need a computer!
But ask the financial journos, or indeed the public, and they'll tell you O'Leary is the genius who thought it all up himself.
Poppycock.
Just like his protege Willy Walsh of ALT, his main skill is in self publicising and showboating.
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Yep. My fave bit is on page 128/129 which explains how MOL was putting on the poor mouth with the unions in 1995 and fighting to hold down wages
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Then in 1997 when due diligence was performed for the upcoming stock market flotation it was revealed that while the company was claiming annual profits of just 5 million in 1995...O'Leary and the two elder Ryan brothers shared a 5 million pound bonus! Which was more than 25% of the total wage bill for the company.
In 1996 their bonus had secretly increased to 8.9 million....almost 50% the total staff wage bill.
By 1997 O'Leary was the sole director, and he alone pocketed 9.8 million!!!
40% of the total staff wage bill to him alone (in addition to his share options).
By the time FR was ready for flotation, MOL had trousered bonus payments of 17 million, and he owned a further 18% of the airline.
Meanwhile staff pay rates started at 3 quid per hour.
If O'Learys final bonus of 9.8 million had been shared out between the workers, they'd have each received an extra 14,000 quid.
Now tell me again, why are unions a bad thing????????????????
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Then in 1997 when due diligence was performed for the upcoming stock market flotation it was revealed that while the company was claiming annual profits of just 5 million in 1995...O'Leary and the two elder Ryan brothers shared a 5 million pound bonus! Which was more than 25% of the total wage bill for the company.
In 1996 their bonus had secretly increased to 8.9 million....almost 50% the total staff wage bill.
By 1997 O'Leary was the sole director, and he alone pocketed 9.8 million!!!
40% of the total staff wage bill to him alone (in addition to his share options).
By the time FR was ready for flotation, MOL had trousered bonus payments of 17 million, and he owned a further 18% of the airline.
Meanwhile staff pay rates started at 3 quid per hour.
If O'Learys final bonus of 9.8 million had been shared out between the workers, they'd have each received an extra 14,000 quid.
Now tell me again, why are unions a bad thing????????????????
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1000hrs
Grapevine has it that MOL was throwing his weight around the IAA last week DEMANDING a 100hr extension for all FR pilots.
He stated that all the pilots had no problem doing this and that some pilots had requested as much.Reports have it he was banging his fist on the table and trying to bully the IAA into getting his own way as usual!
He stated that all the pilots had no problem doing this and that some pilots had requested as much.Reports have it he was banging his fist on the table and trying to bully the IAA into getting his own way as usual!
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Why does he need an extension? The Pilots are constantly being told they are surplus to requirement and to sling there hook if they dont like it not to mention all the other pilots out there desperate to work for FR high salaries and superb benifits package!
Now I know why my March leave has been cancelled!!!!!
Now I know why my March leave has been cancelled!!!!!
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Hairy Camel,
I read with interest your comments regarding a pilot flying/grounding himself whilst suffering from stress. Because of course a pilot within your 'organisation' would obviously receive your full backing were he honest enough to do so.
I read with interest your comments regarding a pilot flying/grounding himself whilst suffering from stress. Because of course a pilot within your 'organisation' would obviously receive your full backing were he honest enough to do so.
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Ryanair is an organisation where you get a memo if you are sick for more than three occasions in a year. The memo is phrased in terms of coming to explain yourself for your exceptional sick leave record and to see what you are doing about changing it.
Only Ryanair and the IAA seem to feel that in such an environment cabin and flight crew can be reasonably expected to act in accordance with their legal responsibilities.
Everybody else knows the realities. Hairy Ryanair management mole knows them too.
Only Ryanair and the IAA seem to feel that in such an environment cabin and flight crew can be reasonably expected to act in accordance with their legal responsibilities.
Everybody else knows the realities. Hairy Ryanair management mole knows them too.
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Clearing the smoke...
Nothing better than a good old smoke screen to get some friendly fire started...
Company's management motto which until recently worked well...
now people are starting to communicate, they can understand where they stand, and more importantly where the enemy stands...
this is the power of REPAweb.org...
A power which has left those throwing out the wildfire cornered and viscous... the management talk says it all...
As for MOLs pay, its fair that members of senior management are duefully rewarded for their efforts...
but 40% of total wages seems grossly unjustified...
Just to finalise, the comments made about the similarities drawn with ValueJet and PanAm, the arguments raised for the company's collapses are true, yet the comments don't draw the parallels many board members here are trying to raise...
in Valuejet's case, it is likely management pressure forced both engineers to take the required short-cuts, whilst pilots were too fearful to ground an aircraft or check documentation onboard for fear of recrimination...
in PanAm's case, the restructuring plans closely reflect those ailing current carriers like AA who are trying to stay afloat following the 9/11 attacks... cost cuts must afflict al facets of the operation, including the detriment toward managerial pay... for obvious reasons of individual interests, this rarely happens in any large organisation...
What must never be taken out of mind, and was raised before with regards to the symbolism of a broken bus, is that aviation is a different beast... the normal economics and reactionary forces that afflict a supermarket chain wont' bear witness upon what events and their consequences take their course in an airline... safety, decision making, and team-building and -leadership suddenly take greater precidence here
Company's management motto which until recently worked well...
now people are starting to communicate, they can understand where they stand, and more importantly where the enemy stands...
this is the power of REPAweb.org...
A power which has left those throwing out the wildfire cornered and viscous... the management talk says it all...
As for MOLs pay, its fair that members of senior management are duefully rewarded for their efforts...
but 40% of total wages seems grossly unjustified...
Just to finalise, the comments made about the similarities drawn with ValueJet and PanAm, the arguments raised for the company's collapses are true, yet the comments don't draw the parallels many board members here are trying to raise...
in Valuejet's case, it is likely management pressure forced both engineers to take the required short-cuts, whilst pilots were too fearful to ground an aircraft or check documentation onboard for fear of recrimination...
in PanAm's case, the restructuring plans closely reflect those ailing current carriers like AA who are trying to stay afloat following the 9/11 attacks... cost cuts must afflict al facets of the operation, including the detriment toward managerial pay... for obvious reasons of individual interests, this rarely happens in any large organisation...
What must never be taken out of mind, and was raised before with regards to the symbolism of a broken bus, is that aviation is a different beast... the normal economics and reactionary forces that afflict a supermarket chain wont' bear witness upon what events and their consequences take their course in an airline... safety, decision making, and team-building and -leadership suddenly take greater precidence here