EasyJet's bias against A320 pilots
And the end of the day it's their airline and their job, they can go about hiring pilots anyway they please. If they made you fly a hand glider sim. would you be complaining they are biased against power pilots?. It's an assesment of your ability to learn and adapt as much as anything else so a type you are not familiar with is more revealing, if you are familiar with it then more is expected.
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all well and said is good, and true, but let others know what is going on.
It is Easy that has said they have a high fail rate for DEC , there is no harm to warn people a head of time.
Agaricus: Get real, do you really think they didn't know Easy has 319's.
Who does not?
Many pilots were not aware as well that Easy likes to ask questions during a sim.
So that was a good warning too.
The more you can say to let others know what to expect, the more you can help them be prepaired.
It is Easy that has said they have a high fail rate for DEC , there is no harm to warn people a head of time.
Agaricus: Get real, do you really think they didn't know Easy has 319's.
Who does not?
Many pilots were not aware as well that Easy likes to ask questions during a sim.
So that was a good warning too.
The more you can say to let others know what to expect, the more you can help them be prepaired.
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I don't know what all the fuss is about. Have a read at the various other posts regarding Easyjet t's and c's and what they're about to do to rostering and perhaps wonder why you wanted to join them in the first place?
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Micia...You r right in that it's nice to get some info before to prepare yourself...However, ezy actually sends out tons of info to you before you get there...including thrust (epr) settings for various stages/config, flight profiles for t/o and SID.... It's really just to learn the figures, config's, speeds and call outs by heart and just apply them to the SID you'll be given by the instructor... How hard can it be??? If you are not willing/smart enough to do that, then do you really want the job??
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don't know what all the fuss is about. Have a read at the various other posts regarding Easyjet t's and c's and what they're about to do to rostering and perhaps wonder why you wanted to join them in the first place?
Rostering / pay / seniority issues are present in every company and yes BALPA is also always there....
That some of them decide to be voluntarily based at Luton always remains a question.......
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Hi to all,
In my experience of 30 years, one is given a briefing (in EZY case in plenty of time)on the detail and one just dus it right, right!
If not no get jobby.
simple.
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In my experience of 30 years, one is given a briefing (in EZY case in plenty of time)on the detail and one just dus it right, right!
If not no get jobby.
simple.
Uncle Alt
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CaptainProp, yes, I have seen what they send you. I kinda think the same thing if you study what they give you, then.......
however, always nice to know what is happening to others as well........
....and to your last question, no, I don't want the job (I already have the best one in the world) but I always want to tell what I think can help someone, when I know others are afraid to say what I do.
however, always nice to know what is happening to others as well........
....and to your last question, no, I don't want the job (I already have the best one in the world) but I always want to tell what I think can help someone, when I know others are afraid to say what I do.
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EZY checkride
I was on airbus at time of interview but am flying the 737`s now with EZY.
My advice is :
1)Save your money by using FS or whatever PC flight sim to update your scan instead of renting a simulator (aren`t we paying enough already to become pilots ?). Learn the profiles well so it shows you`re motivated enough to know them perfectly.
2)Do some raw data approaches in your 320 (or whatever you`re flying) right before you do the interview. That keeps your scan up as much as needed for the relatively easy checkride.
3) Don`t listen to those guys saying it is difficult and that there is high failure rate. BULL ! In my group 1 out of 10 failed. And that was because of very bad english knowledge (but he was able to come back 6 months later to retry !)
4) And most of all, the sim check is free, so have fun flying that old thing. It might be your last time !
My advice is :
1)Save your money by using FS or whatever PC flight sim to update your scan instead of renting a simulator (aren`t we paying enough already to become pilots ?). Learn the profiles well so it shows you`re motivated enough to know them perfectly.
2)Do some raw data approaches in your 320 (or whatever you`re flying) right before you do the interview. That keeps your scan up as much as needed for the relatively easy checkride.
3) Don`t listen to those guys saying it is difficult and that there is high failure rate. BULL ! In my group 1 out of 10 failed. And that was because of very bad english knowledge (but he was able to come back 6 months later to retry !)
4) And most of all, the sim check is free, so have fun flying that old thing. It might be your last time !
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Look Micia obviously for whatever reason easy has rattled your cage. If you don’t really want a job there, why don’t you just chill out and put your feet up. You’ll get yourself an ulcer otherwise mate. Get a pint of ale and seat yourself by the fire.
I don’t work for easy and I have no desire at the moment either. However, the day I want a job there I’ll try to get one and if I can’t get one, I’ll try somewhere else. But I see no point in going on.
We were all 18 years old once and tried to sort the world out, but when we grow up we find out that is not always possible.
Come on mate, get that fire going, pour yourself a half and relax.
It's easy.
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Not quite sure why the answers here have to have the macho attitude of 'don't complain'. The starter of this thread has a vary valid point. Having got several thousand hours on both the Airbus A320 and the 737 they are chalk and cheese. Of course it is up to easyJet how they select their pilots but many older pilots have the attitude of good pilots are good stick jockeys. That is not true in todays airliners and certainly not true in the A320/319. Cathay Pacific have had a policy of selecting ex Harrier pilots but I can say that they don't always make the best airline pilots!
Of course someone who already has many hours on the airbus can more easily assimilate the easyJet procedures as they have more spare brain power! You can't determine that when you put people in a 737 sim for the purpose of assessing them for the A319!
Of course someone who already has many hours on the airbus can more easily assimilate the easyJet procedures as they have more spare brain power! You can't determine that when you put people in a 737 sim for the purpose of assessing them for the A319!
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My last one on the this one.
I think that what some people are trying to say in previous posts, is that having type specific experience is not what is all about. It is possibly for the bean counters. But, there are many other factors on pilot selection and a type rating and hours on type, although very important, is not all.
At the end of the day, why wouldn't easy or any other airline for that matter employ these type rated pilots if they thought they were worth employing.
We all have been unsuccessful at some point in time in our careers or indeed in our lifes. But sometimes we have to put it behind us and get on with it. It's not to do with a macho attitude. It's life, and life is not always fair, not by a long way.
The fire is on and I can taste that ale and am off.
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I think that what some people are trying to say in previous posts, is that having type specific experience is not what is all about. It is possibly for the bean counters. But, there are many other factors on pilot selection and a type rating and hours on type, although very important, is not all.
At the end of the day, why wouldn't easy or any other airline for that matter employ these type rated pilots if they thought they were worth employing.
We all have been unsuccessful at some point in time in our careers or indeed in our lifes. But sometimes we have to put it behind us and get on with it. It's not to do with a macho attitude. It's life, and life is not always fair, not by a long way.
The fire is on and I can taste that ale and am off.
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Viscount you need to be the one to LOOK and read better why I said I made this post.
I am no where near having my cage rattled, and being that I am sitting on a recliner, my feet are up.
Furthermore, I chill when I want just as you do what you want.
Go have your pint and enjoy, sounds like you really need it more, not me, I don't need it.
Shame so many want to see evil in what I write.
If I were to want a job at a place, I would like to hear everything anyone has to say about it. I could then pick and choose the tips I choose to pay attention to.
Who knows, maybe even some 737 guys that thought they didn't stand a chance at Easy will now try for it, being they said they are only hiring for the bus at the moment.
I am no where near having my cage rattled, and being that I am sitting on a recliner, my feet are up.
Furthermore, I chill when I want just as you do what you want.
Go have your pint and enjoy, sounds like you really need it more, not me, I don't need it.
Shame so many want to see evil in what I write.
If I were to want a job at a place, I would like to hear everything anyone has to say about it. I could then pick and choose the tips I choose to pay attention to.
Who knows, maybe even some 737 guys that thought they didn't stand a chance at Easy will now try for it, being they said they are only hiring for the bus at the moment.
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micia - I never meant that if you, as in you personally, wanted the jobb then how hard could it be.... You were refering to other peoples experience with ezy interviews, right? So, then I thought you would understand that I meant you, as in anybody going for an interview....
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Hey folks, ever tried the A320 without A/THR or FD's, Direct Law, hand-flying a raw data NDB? Every bit as tricky as a 737 in the equivalent set-up. I can't comprehend the opinions which claim the A320 is so,so easy. It's not. The same level of scan and handling skills are required on both types.
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prehaps easyjet want the flexibility of which fleet they want to put direct entry pilots on. also i would think it sensible to put an experienced a320 pilot on the boeing as they would then be bonded.
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I realise the concern between Boeing and Airbus sim checks. Having flown both types I would like to voice my opinion regarding this thread.
Airbus is a lot easier to fly on a normal flying day, WHEN THINGS GO T*TS UP Airbus can become a nightmare, this is why general knowledge of aircraft handling etc. make it important to test prospective emloyees on a conventional aircraft! Try flying the bus with Green and Yellow Hydaulics lost (worse than Boeing by far)!!!! The whole point of a check when joining a company is not how slick you are but how you improve your skills over time!!
Airbus is a lot easier to fly on a normal flying day, WHEN THINGS GO T*TS UP Airbus can become a nightmare, this is why general knowledge of aircraft handling etc. make it important to test prospective emloyees on a conventional aircraft! Try flying the bus with Green and Yellow Hydaulics lost (worse than Boeing by far)!!!! The whole point of a check when joining a company is not how slick you are but how you improve your skills over time!!
