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Old 26th Nov 2004, 08:50
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My Travel A320 in the Snowdrift!

Don't know if it was during taxi or take off run, but off they went sometime just before midnight last night at Evenes/ENEV.



In norwegian: dagbladet.no

The A320 was on it's way to Norwich with "whale-safari" participants.

Evenes airport was closed for 5 hrs while the aircraft was towed back onto firm ground. AAIB Norway will investigate.

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According to rumors, things went bad during line-up. Instead of turn onto the runway it went straight across the runway and into deepish snow.

Slippery? Norway in november, what did they expect?
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M609. Wind your neck in until the investigation is complete.
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736jock, did you not notice the smiley face in the above post?

Norwegian Airport Authority Chief at Narvik airport is quoted having said the following: Årsaken er uklar, men kan ha sammenheng med vinterforhold og glatt rullebane.
In English: The cause is unclear as yet but could be linked to wintery conditions and slippery runway.
Acc to the same chap, the taxiways were gritted(is that the English word?) it wasn't windy and neither the runway nor the taxiways were especially slippery.

M609 adding a bit of rumour he himself has picked up is hardly cause for neck winding.

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Here we go again, the ever present 'should we speculate or not' question. If M609 wants to stick his neck out, especially with a , let him. It's a rumour network, anyway.
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Poor buggers. I have taxied up in the Enotekio (sic) in surface drifting snow at night, very disorientating. Best plan is to switch off all the aircraft lights.
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Talking Ho Hum

Lighten up, it's leasure time all day on this site.
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Flaps, I did notice the smiley. I also noticed the reference
" Slippery? Norway in november, what did they expect?"

If that is not an assumption (all be it in a question!) that the crew were at fault, then I don't know what is. Could be dozens of other scenarios. I'm prepared to wait for the conclusion of any official investigation. The outcome of that will not be based on rumour.
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If you dont like rumours or humour or banter then i suggest you dont look at this site!
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Certainly was deep - halfway up the main wheels and the nacelles touching the snow!

Bp - check 763's profile - anyone calling himself 'Skipper' says it all.

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Was it an A320 from Mytravel Airways UK, or Mytravel Airways Denmark ?
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Actually, a more reliable source said today, that it happened after take off roll was initiated. Makes it a bit more scary in my book.

It is a MyTravel UK AC.

(I do not in any way blame the crew, AAIB-N can have that job! Just some firendly banter, that's all! )
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" Slippery? Norway in november, what did they expect?"

If that is not an assumption (all be it in a question!) that the crew were at fault, then I don't know what is.
Do you think it could have been some sort of a joke?

I'm prepared to wait for the conclusion of any official investigation. The outcome of that will not be based on rumour.
Well, how do we know that for sure? A few weeks ago I read a preliminary report made by the Norwegian AAIB based on nothing but guesses and strange theories.

According to rumors the aircraft involved in this incident was G-CRPH (MyTravel Airways UK).
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Cool

Aircraft lost directional control shorlty after setting T/O power and gently left the runway. Passengers are home by all accounts. Might be some damage to nose wheel.
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According to rumors the aircraft involved in this incident was G-CRPH
Heard the same rumor.
The weather was a bit freaky up north yesterday.
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M609, I apologise. I'm a bit defensive of some great colleagues!
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Near accident at Gardermoen
Worrying tales of safety problems at Oslo's Gardermoen International airport continued after a near collision earlier this week.

Related stories:
Five close calls at Norwegian airports - 23.11.2004
Snow snarls air traffic - 17.11.2004
SAS violates safety check regulations - 11.11.2004


According to newspaper VG, two SAS planes carrying several hundred passengers were just seconds from disaster in heavy snow last Monday.
A flight bound for Copenhagen at 6:20 am was heading for the west runway for take-off. At the same time the morning arrival from Bergen was descending to land on the same runway.
The pilots on the Copenhagen flight managed to detect the problem and stopped before entering the runway. The air controller that gave the planes the all clear has been suspended according to VG, but this has not been confirmed by civil aviation administration organization Avinor.
"We have had a serious incident where Avinor has begun an internal investigation, but on principle I do not comment on any personnel issues," said Per Harald Pedersen, head of tower and approach control at Norway's major airports.
The near-accident is also being investigated by the Aircraft Accident Investigation Board.
"As long as the case is under investigation there isn't much we can say but we can confirm that two planes were very near each other. Thanks to a very good performance and vigilance by our pilots the accident was averted," said SAS information chief Siv Meisingseth.
Poor weather conditions continue to make life unpredictable at Norway's airports. On Thursday night a charter plane with 123 on board slid off the runway during take-off at Harstad/Narvik Evenes Airport.
According to Avinor's manager at the airport, Reidar Johansen, the plane was evacuated without incident and there were no injuries. Though there was snowfall Johansen reported that the runway had not been especially slippery.
The plane, an Airbus 320 from MyTravel Airways, was en route to Norwich, England with tourists who had visited a killer whale safari at Ofotfjorden.

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'Might be some damage to the nosewheel' was an earlier quote. Now, I know nothing of this incident but looking at the photo looks to me much more than that.
I know the aircraft is up to its nuts in snow but the angle of the number two engine looks to me as though the pylon fuse pins or the engine mounts may have sheared.
I may be miles off the mark here as photo's can be deceiving but the angle of the engine looks strange to me.
I also think that 763 jock should lighten-up.
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Old 27th Nov 2004, 11:09
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Hang on, if it slid off the runway then one assumes it is lying in a field when the photo was taken. With softer ground, more snow and some possbile nose wheel damage it's going to look a little strange isn't it?

All good fun.

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Have been informed that a nose leg and jacks are on there way up to EVE later today and will operate back to the UK gear down
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