Canadian airline JETSGO takes out "hold short" sign on MAP go-around
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Canadian airline JETSGO takes out "hold short" sign on MAP go-around
Here is the CADOR report
Registration : C-FRYH Operator : JETSGO
Manufacturer : MCDONNELL DOUGLAS Operator Type: COMMERCIAL
Model : DC-9-80 CARs Info: 705 - AIRLINER
Injuries: Fatal : 0 Serious : 0 Minor : 0 None : 0 Unknown : 0
Occurrence Summary :
A05W0010: The Jetsgo Douglas DC-9-83, C-FRYH, was operating as flight JGO191 from Toronto, ON to Calgary, AB. During the touchdown on runway 34 in Calgary, the aircraft departed the runway surface to the west and traveled for approximately 1800 feet beside the runway before becoming airborne. The aircraft struck a runway hold sign during the excursion resulting in some damage to the flaps and landing gear. The extent of damage to the aircraft is unknown at this time. The aircraft returned for a successful second landing. There were no injuries to passengers or flight crew. The TSB has dispatched two regional investigators to the site. The weather at the time of the accident was as follows: METAR CYYC 210300Z 04007KT 1/2SM FZFG OVC004 M04/M06 A2974 RMK FG6ST2 RVR RWY34 1400 FT SLP123=
Here's the National Post article:
Jet slides off runway, hits sign: Calgary emergency: 78 passengers on plane as it tears along grass verge
NATIONAL POST
01/25/2005
Federal investigators are trying to determine why a Jetsgo flight with 78 passengers aboard suddenly veered off the runway at Calgary airport last week, trundled along the grass verge, then took off again from the turf.
As it tore 1,600 feet along the frozen ground, the McDonnell Douglas MD83 ran over a sign, apparently damaging flaps, landing gear doors and hydraulics, according to an official report on the incident.
The crew lifted off from the grass after reporting a "fuel emergency," but circled around and landed again safely. About 30 other aircraft were left in holding patterns and emergency vehicles dispatched as the drama unfolded.
Investigators are not saying what caused the mishap, but the most likely culprit would appear to be the weather, said Tom MacMillan, a Jetsgo spokesman.
"The combination of ice fog, low ceiling, low visibility and no centre lights on the runway ... would have come together to make the landing that much more problematic or challenging," he said.
Mr. MacMillan stressed that the fuel emergency only meant that if the plane had been forced to wait in queue behind other flights for its second landing, it would not have had enough fuel to be diverted to another airport, should Calgary be closed.
But one experienced airline pilot said the incident could have ended much more hazardously, especially given the fuel situation and harm inflicted to the jet's airframe and hydraulic lines.
"Had they kept the aircraft on the ground, where would it have ended up?" said the pilot, who asked not to be named. "In what heap, in what snow bank?"
The Transportation Safety Board is investigating the incident and plans to analyze both the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder at its Ottawa office, said John Cottreau, a spokesman for the agency. He could not say when a report would be issued.
"We investigate when we think there are lessons to be learned," said Mr. Cottreau.
The incident began just before 8 p.m. Calgary time last Thursday, as Flight 191 from Toronto touched down on Runway 34, according to a report on Transport Canada's Civil Aviation Daily Occurrence Reporting System (CADORS), obtained by the National Post.
Crew members reported they felt the aircraft start to slide off the runway, so elected to do a missed approach, meaning they would lift off and try another landing, said the report. The crew told the control tower they had to get back to ground as soon as possible because of what they called a "fuel emergency."
The plane landed safely again at 8:10 p.m., with no injuries reported.
"It was later reported by TSB that the entire aircraft departed the runway during the landing sequences and the go-around was initiated from the grass beside the runway surface," said the CADORS report.
"There is damage to the flaps, gear doors and possibly some hydraulic lines."
Some airlines require their crew to use auto-land in conditions such as those at Calgary, where visibility was reduced to 1,400 feet, said the commercial pilot.
It is possible that, as the Jetsgo flight broke out of the clouds, the pilots were hand flying, thought incorrectly that there were lights embedded down the centre of the runway and lined up the plane accordingly. If so, they would have been looking at lights that were actually along the side of the runway. As they aligned the craft, it would have been half on and half off the runway, said the pilot.
Mr. MacMillan, the Jetsgo spokesman, said the arrival at Calgary initially seemed quite normal.
But "the captain at the time said he felt something abnormal on landing and so pulled up again."
Registration : C-FRYH Operator : JETSGO
Manufacturer : MCDONNELL DOUGLAS Operator Type: COMMERCIAL
Model : DC-9-80 CARs Info: 705 - AIRLINER
Injuries: Fatal : 0 Serious : 0 Minor : 0 None : 0 Unknown : 0
Occurrence Summary :
A05W0010: The Jetsgo Douglas DC-9-83, C-FRYH, was operating as flight JGO191 from Toronto, ON to Calgary, AB. During the touchdown on runway 34 in Calgary, the aircraft departed the runway surface to the west and traveled for approximately 1800 feet beside the runway before becoming airborne. The aircraft struck a runway hold sign during the excursion resulting in some damage to the flaps and landing gear. The extent of damage to the aircraft is unknown at this time. The aircraft returned for a successful second landing. There were no injuries to passengers or flight crew. The TSB has dispatched two regional investigators to the site. The weather at the time of the accident was as follows: METAR CYYC 210300Z 04007KT 1/2SM FZFG OVC004 M04/M06 A2974 RMK FG6ST2 RVR RWY34 1400 FT SLP123=
Here's the National Post article:
Jet slides off runway, hits sign: Calgary emergency: 78 passengers on plane as it tears along grass verge
NATIONAL POST
01/25/2005
Federal investigators are trying to determine why a Jetsgo flight with 78 passengers aboard suddenly veered off the runway at Calgary airport last week, trundled along the grass verge, then took off again from the turf.
As it tore 1,600 feet along the frozen ground, the McDonnell Douglas MD83 ran over a sign, apparently damaging flaps, landing gear doors and hydraulics, according to an official report on the incident.
The crew lifted off from the grass after reporting a "fuel emergency," but circled around and landed again safely. About 30 other aircraft were left in holding patterns and emergency vehicles dispatched as the drama unfolded.
Investigators are not saying what caused the mishap, but the most likely culprit would appear to be the weather, said Tom MacMillan, a Jetsgo spokesman.
"The combination of ice fog, low ceiling, low visibility and no centre lights on the runway ... would have come together to make the landing that much more problematic or challenging," he said.
Mr. MacMillan stressed that the fuel emergency only meant that if the plane had been forced to wait in queue behind other flights for its second landing, it would not have had enough fuel to be diverted to another airport, should Calgary be closed.
But one experienced airline pilot said the incident could have ended much more hazardously, especially given the fuel situation and harm inflicted to the jet's airframe and hydraulic lines.
"Had they kept the aircraft on the ground, where would it have ended up?" said the pilot, who asked not to be named. "In what heap, in what snow bank?"
The Transportation Safety Board is investigating the incident and plans to analyze both the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder at its Ottawa office, said John Cottreau, a spokesman for the agency. He could not say when a report would be issued.
"We investigate when we think there are lessons to be learned," said Mr. Cottreau.
The incident began just before 8 p.m. Calgary time last Thursday, as Flight 191 from Toronto touched down on Runway 34, according to a report on Transport Canada's Civil Aviation Daily Occurrence Reporting System (CADORS), obtained by the National Post.
Crew members reported they felt the aircraft start to slide off the runway, so elected to do a missed approach, meaning they would lift off and try another landing, said the report. The crew told the control tower they had to get back to ground as soon as possible because of what they called a "fuel emergency."
The plane landed safely again at 8:10 p.m., with no injuries reported.
"It was later reported by TSB that the entire aircraft departed the runway during the landing sequences and the go-around was initiated from the grass beside the runway surface," said the CADORS report.
"There is damage to the flaps, gear doors and possibly some hydraulic lines."
Some airlines require their crew to use auto-land in conditions such as those at Calgary, where visibility was reduced to 1,400 feet, said the commercial pilot.
It is possible that, as the Jetsgo flight broke out of the clouds, the pilots were hand flying, thought incorrectly that there were lights embedded down the centre of the runway and lined up the plane accordingly. If so, they would have been looking at lights that were actually along the side of the runway. As they aligned the craft, it would have been half on and half off the runway, said the pilot.
Mr. MacMillan, the Jetsgo spokesman, said the arrival at Calgary initially seemed quite normal.
But "the captain at the time said he felt something abnormal on landing and so pulled up again."
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Sounds like this could have been alot worse. I am surprised that they would have declared a fuel emergency after one missed approach. With the forcast conditions at the field, 1/2 mile in freezing fog, and 400 foot ceiling, I wonder if the alternate was more suitable. Will wait for the TSB report.
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Note that the National Post SAYS they declared a fuel emergency, but the CADORS does not. I'll believe the CADORS over that rag anyday and wait for the report to come out.
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I'm just glad no one was hurt! We all new it was mearly a matter of time before an incident would occur at jets go. hopefully MLB will stop putting so much pressure on the crews.
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Folks,
There's a parallel thread on Jetsgo here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...5&pagenumber=2
There's a parallel thread on Jetsgo here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...5&pagenumber=2
