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Old 28th Mar 2002, 03:18
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Cruella,. .Since I eventually completed the on-line application for ej late december, I have received ONE update. Once every 13 weeks! hmm I suppose that is regular. I have also e-mailed ej recruitment twice, asking for an update with no joy. Is this because you are simply overwhelmed by applications? ,if so just own up. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" />
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IMHO Dirty Harry has a very good point here. Like him, incidentally, the following comments are not motivated by sour grapes, since I've never applied to easyJet. However I have been amazed by the "easyJet selection process" stories I have heard from pilots I've flown with lately, and I believe that for easyJet's own good they desperately need a dose of common sense injecting into their hiring programme - before they reject too many more good people..... .. .Lots of pilots in my company were given leaving dates with varying degrees of immediacy in the aftermath of 9/11 and our Chief Pilot (who's matey with his opposite number in EZY) apparently put in a good word for our lot - an excellent bunch of chaps and chapesses, a truckload, in fact, of experienced, jet-qualified, already-psychometrically-tested pilots who had been honing their airline-crew skills flying heavy jet airliners around a large portion of the globe until they found themselves suddenly on the wrong side of a line on our seniority list. Officially, EZY's response was to warmly welcome this opportunity and praise our airline's reputation for the excellence and professionalism of its pilots. So how did EZY go about availing themselves of this offer? By making them all go through the entire nauseating selection process - group exercise, logic tests, the whole nine yards. And some, sure enough, have failed - despite it being blindingly obvious to anyone who had the good fortune to fly with them that these individuals are GOOD AIRLINE PILOTS (sorry to shout).. .. .Logic tests and building stuff in a group out of lego or whatever it was are, I'm sure, handy things to assess young people whom you are considering for ab-initio sponsorship, but look here - these people typically had a couple of years and a thousand hours or more as second-in-command of a large jet airliner, being exposed to the various situations which tend to come your way in that time. I think that's enough to earn you the right to bypass this nonsense, don't you? If they were short in the logic or getting-on-with-a-crew departments, they wouldn't have been able to stay the course in a long-haul crew in my opinion.. .. .EZY, your selection procedure is wasting you a lot of time and money. How have we reached this bizarre situation where the people who consider themselves best-qualified to assess pilots, are not pilots?. .. .There, that's a load off my chest!
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Old 28th Mar 2002, 23:13
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Could not agree with you more,. .. .Any others?....
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Old 28th Mar 2002, 23:23
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I CAN SEE WHERE YOUR COMING FROM WITH THE ABOVE AS THESE PEOPLE WERE VERY EXPERIENCED.. .. .BUT AS HAS BEEN SEEN IN THIS AND OTHER INDUSTRIES EXPERIENCE IS NOT THE ONLY FACTOR IN WHETHER YOU HIRE A PERSON OR NOT.. .. .I QUITE LIKE THE IDEA THAT EVERYONE GOES THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS. AT THE TIME IT MAY HAVE SEEMED LUDICROUS BUT WHAT VIEW DO YOU THINK THE PILOTS WOULD HAVE TAKEN IF THEY WERE UNEMPLOYED AND THEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR SUITABLILITY TO JOIN THE COMPANY. MOST WOULD IM SURE JUMP AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO FORWARD TO THE SELECTION PROCESS.. .. .EASY JET HAS A PHILOSIPHY WHICH STARTS AT THE TOP AND RUNS THROUGH THE COMPANY. EVERYONE HAS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY WOULD FIT INTO THAT ETHOS( AND NOT EVERYONE DOES). HORSES FOR COURSES..... .. .BUT AGAIN I DO SYMPATHISE WITH YOUR COMMENTS..... .. .GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE WHO IS OUT THERE LOOKING FOR THEIR DREAM. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 28 March 2002, 19:25: Message edited by: waitingforclearance ]</small>
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Old 29th Mar 2002, 13:19
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What a dreadful thought - working for easyJet, no thanks. They have taken some real NUTCASES that I know, the chance of working with them again fills me with chunky sick!. . . . <small>[ 29 March 2002, 09:22: Message edited by: Mentaleena ]</small>
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Old 29th Mar 2002, 14:05
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Jumbojockey - I take issue with you on the usefullness of group lego exercises during a selection process.. .. .A few years ago I was part of the selection team for BA. I used to mark application forms, do interviews and observe the group exercises. To my surprise, the group exercise gave me far more info about applicants than anything else.. .. .Like you I was very sceptical about lego etc. until I started to watch what happened. It very soon became apparent who could work well with others, who sulked when their ideas were rejected, who was unable to make their views heard, and who just HAD to be IN CHARGE. In short it gave a reasonably good pointer about who could work well as part of a team. There is no point in hiring a copilot who can fly an immaculate ILS engine out in a 30 kt crosswind if he is not going to speak up when he sees his captain about to do something stupid, and there is no point in hiring a captain who can do an even more immaculate ILS in an even stronger crosswind if he is going to refuse to listen to the voice of a concerned copilot.. .. .I interviewed both cadets and experienced pilots - some very experienced with several thousand more flying hours than myself - and in all cases I found the group exercise the most revealing part of the selection process.
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Old 1st Apr 2002, 19:37
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I'm sure the guys who were rejected from Virgin(Whats all this secrecy stuff,we all know who they are!)were perfectly acceptable candidates.However ,thousands of hours shouting at Mumbai on the HF while your quadrapufic scarebus flies itself along is one thing.Handling an engine failure in some prehistoric clockwork sim is another.Five sector sub orbital jaunts are yet another.It doesn't make them good or bad pilots .It just means that a lot of them crashed the sim(Oh yes they did!!)
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Old 2nd Apr 2002, 15:55
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As I said previously, no selection process is completely foolproof, however, we do have a high success rate. We deliberately put everyone thorugh the same selection process, regardless of experience, as we see people with a wide variety of experience and want to treat everyone as fairly and professionally as we can. The feedback we get from the pilots we assess suggests we achieve this as far as the majority are concerned. The process is run by recruitment specialists and Line Captains/Training Captains and I can assure you that everyone involved knows what they are doing!!
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