LHR Incident 24/10/04 2025z ??? (or how not to jump into journo mode)
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Halo.... You have justifiably earned the upmost respect and admiration from a whole bunch of people. I take my hat off to you sir for one of the most enjoyable reads I have ever seen on this site, an accurate, non-emotional, factual presentation of a few minutes of what is probably a normal event for you and your colleagues. Pilots, airlines and the general public owe you guys tons. My upmost praise to you sir, well done and thanks !
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Out of interest, what job do you do that lets you "have access to this as part of my work tools". Or is it secret squirrel?
B727,A300,B741,B742
- is that push back..?!
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Halo
Thank you for taking the time to write your retort. I only hope that when i get my atpl that i get the chance to be guided up, down or anywhere by you!
nice work!
wayne
Thank you for taking the time to write your retort. I only hope that when i get my atpl that i get the chance to be guided up, down or anywhere by you!
nice work!
wayne
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Hi folks,
Thank you very much for all your kind words. I have the utmost respect for all the people I work with and all the people that receive our service. It is as always a pleasure to work with some of the most professional people in the industry in all aspects of the operation at Heathrow, and I hope we will continue to keep things fun and friendly for everybody at the sharp end.
Your comments about the way we interact with each other are always welcome
BristolRE, thank you for your most gracious reply
Halo
Thank you very much for all your kind words. I have the utmost respect for all the people I work with and all the people that receive our service. It is as always a pleasure to work with some of the most professional people in the industry in all aspects of the operation at Heathrow, and I hope we will continue to keep things fun and friendly for everybody at the sharp end.
Your comments about the way we interact with each other are always welcome
BristolRE, thank you for your most gracious reply
Halo
Woodpecker,
The 28s became 27s around June 1987. 23L became 23 much earlier than that, I'm guessing the early 1970s.
Not sure when 23 accepted it's last landing but I would guess sometime last year.
The 28s became 27s around June 1987. 23L became 23 much earlier than that, I'm guessing the early 1970s.
Not sure when 23 accepted it's last landing but I would guess sometime last year.
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Not sure when it changed but I was Tower Controller on the night it changed, and I've still got the old 28L designator as a souvenir. See Here.
I'll make some enquiries with the scribes that are writing the Heathrow book, or maybe HD remembers?
I'll make some enquiries with the scribes that are writing the Heathrow book, or maybe HD remembers?
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Serfing ATCO,
HD is with the nurse at the moment about his Altzheimers, provided he remembers his appointment.
Doors is about right with Summer 87. The BP / PB Scribes will know exactly.
All I got away with was the "runway-blocked" fridge magnets......
But at least I can now print off your jpeg and put it in a strip-holder......
TDM
HD is with the nurse at the moment about his Altzheimers, provided he remembers his appointment.
Doors is about right with Summer 87. The BP / PB Scribes will know exactly.
All I got away with was the "runway-blocked" fridge magnets......
But at least I can now print off your jpeg and put it in a strip-holder......
TDM
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UK ATC are in my opinion the best in Europe, not only in terms of controlling, ie having an understanding of what an aircraft can do - realistic speeds/changes on approach, but also in terms of your situational awareness.
In particular at Heathrow, you guys and gals have one heck of a mental model going, and you share it with us by advising us of other aircraft movements etc.
When the unexpected happens, you do a great job of reworking your plans.
Enough of the praise, but I feel it is deserved. I couldn't do your job!
K N
In particular at Heathrow, you guys and gals have one heck of a mental model going, and you share it with us by advising us of other aircraft movements etc.
When the unexpected happens, you do a great job of reworking your plans.
Enough of the praise, but I feel it is deserved. I couldn't do your job!
K N
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I know it's a bit late, but I found out from PB that the most likely date for the change from 28s/10s to 27s/09s was the night of 2nd July 1987.
And Jerricho, a New Horizon mug never touched my lips! See you soon? Happy New Year!
And Jerricho, a New Horizon mug never touched my lips! See you soon? Happy New Year!
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<<I know it's a bit late, but I found out from PB that the most likely date for the change from 28s/10s to 27s/09s was the night of 2nd July 1987>>
I recall it well.. BAA had commissioned the heaviest moving equipment to move the runways round that few degrees but by about 3am they had to give up. Fortunately I was able to hastily get my Reliant Robin (it was HTF 443N Al) from the car park and that extra power enabled them to reposition the runways in time for the morning rush.
NURSE... the screens.. quick....
I recall it well.. BAA had commissioned the heaviest moving equipment to move the runways round that few degrees but by about 3am they had to give up. Fortunately I was able to hastily get my Reliant Robin (it was HTF 443N Al) from the car park and that extra power enabled them to reposition the runways in time for the morning rush.
NURSE... the screens.. quick....
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There is many a longhaul pilot that has trekked across the Middle East ( usually at night) and over some very dodgy countries to end up breathing a sigh of relief when transferred to London ATC, then Heathrow. The ATC is first class and the best I've ever used, anywhere in the world.
