BA To Announce 7500 Jobs to Go
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Since when have LGW and the regions been cross-subsidised from LHR? If theres a cash flow in this company its from everywhere else down to LHR to fund such vast follies as Waterworld.
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LGW and regions have always been subsidised from LHR. Why do you think Branson was so desperate to move in there? Waterside is a different question. I certainly think you could argue that it is now an expensive luxury - but that arguement is quite independent of the operation at LHR.
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Norfolk - the regions are not subsidised by LHR - they are run as seperate subsidiary companies (BAR at MAN and BHX for example). True, the regions have always struggled to make money but I fear LHR will now be joining the struggle to make a profit.
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Stabtrim - you are quite correct. EOG is a separate company as well, but they have all struggled to make money prior to recent events. LHR was at least starting from +ve territory. From the point of view of the employees, this may well be a technicality. The whole organisation will need to retrench to a position where money is not being thrown overboard at such a rate. I still maintain that the heaviest cuts are likely in the regions but certainly some consolidation at LHR is also inevitable.
The BAr fleet of 737-500s based at MAN are already being reduced from 10 to 6 as of next spring, what chance the whole lot will go?
The Hangar is also being closed.
Its grim up north!!
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The Hangar is also being closed.
Its grim up north!!
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Norfolk - Wake up to life outside of LHR. As my colleagues have correctly stated the regions are not subsidised by London. BAR even pays 'big BA' for SWORD etc. In fact its probably the other way 'round when you consider that BAR is prevented from advertising its services in areas of the country (read Oxfordshire) which would impinge on LHR Loads. Get your facts straight and look a bit closer to home - you obviously have no idea about life in the regions.
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My (only very slightly out of date information) was always that BHX made a tidy profit on a number of its routes. However, as ex-City flyer will soon find out, with a cost base dictated by London, those profits are easily swallowed up by the bean counters, in Waterworld.
However, as we are all mainline pilots anyway, it's not going to make a fat lot of difference where the axe falls. Just fewer fun commands in the regions.
Incidentally, with so many options open to BA with regards to volountary redundancy, early retirement, part time working, paid/unpaid stand down, fewer flying managers, and natural wastage. Before we even mention pay cuts. Not much creativity would have to be demonstrated by those with our 'best interests' at heart, to mitigate the impact of these quite horrific attacks.
Mmmmmm, perhaps I said it all. 'Best interests.' Yep, that would have been it!
However, as we are all mainline pilots anyway, it's not going to make a fat lot of difference where the axe falls. Just fewer fun commands in the regions.
Incidentally, with so many options open to BA with regards to volountary redundancy, early retirement, part time working, paid/unpaid stand down, fewer flying managers, and natural wastage. Before we even mention pay cuts. Not much creativity would have to be demonstrated by those with our 'best interests' at heart, to mitigate the impact of these quite horrific attacks.
Mmmmmm, perhaps I said it all. 'Best interests.' Yep, that would have been it!
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Tandemrotor,
According to a briefing this morning, BHX was still making money (just!!). Should be safe from a large portion of the chop. Any reductions would be covered by people bidding out (allegedly!!).
May still be worth heading oop north!
According to a briefing this morning, BHX was still making money (just!!). Should be safe from a large portion of the chop. Any reductions would be covered by people bidding out (allegedly!!).
May still be worth heading oop north!
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Final Three Greens,there is no need to apologise.I was only stating the facts.
JB007,you replied,very eloquently I might add,to my initial posting in this thread that"This is crap".
You may like to read the British Airways press release just issued and then tell me which bits are "crap" !!
BA has announced 7000 job cuts.I must apologise profusely.I exaggerated by 500.Naughty boy!
They are going to retire the 747-200 as stated and withdraw 6 767'2 (not stated) and 4 narrow-bodied aircraft.(Most likely 737 at LHR,as stated).This will amount to about 300 pilots,so I might have exaggerated again.But I think my initial posting was quite near the mark.Your initial posting "This is crap" was exactly that.
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JB007,you replied,very eloquently I might add,to my initial posting in this thread that"This is crap".
You may like to read the British Airways press release just issued and then tell me which bits are "crap" !!
BA has announced 7000 job cuts.I must apologise profusely.I exaggerated by 500.Naughty boy!
They are going to retire the 747-200 as stated and withdraw 6 767'2 (not stated) and 4 narrow-bodied aircraft.(Most likely 737 at LHR,as stated).This will amount to about 300 pilots,so I might have exaggerated again.But I think my initial posting was quite near the mark.Your initial posting "This is crap" was exactly that.
You Are The Weakest Link,Goodbye !!
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Hmmm. Doesn't sound a very specific plan so far. Classic retirement was a no-brainer. B767s to be 'withdrawn' from shorthaul: to be redeployed on Atlantic? Why not name the other shorthaul aircraft? Sounds like more to come to me.
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Ok, 300 pilot jobs to go. That sounds like a number that can be handled by the recruitment/training freeze already announced. Does anybody know how BA is proposing to lose 300 and does this include the unfortunate flight engineers on the classic?