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Minesagrolsch 18th Sep 2001 15:04

BA To Announce 7500 Jobs to Go
 
This is the PP RUMOUR NE and as such this is still only a RUMOUR,but a very strong one from a VERY reliable source.
BA is set to announce 7500 job cuts which will include about 400 flight crew.They are set to ground the 737 fleet at LHR as well as scrap the 747 Classic fleet asap.They are also in talks with Steven Byers (speling?) and there is even talk of a tie up of some order with Virgin.

Fly747 18th Sep 2001 17:57

Yeah and classics to be on MOD standby. To be retired anyway so no prob if grunts wreck the interiors.

Minesagrolsch 18th Sep 2001 18:03

Whadda you mean ?There's quite a few ex-grunts flying the things anyway !!

Avoiding Action 18th Sep 2001 21:15

Hope you chaps aren't getting grunts mixed up with crabs - there is a difference, you know :D

Minesagrolsch 18th Sep 2001 21:18

You're right,there is a difference.about 6 brain cells !!


Joke guys,joke !! :eek:

Captain Numpty 18th Sep 2001 21:36

Hi Chaps

Whilst I appreciate the humour being banted around. Lets just have a little respect for the enormity of what "might" happen here. After all, who knows, you might all be casualties yet!

Sorry........I just felt I had to say something.

No hard feelings, I hope.

C.N.

Carnage Matey! 19th Sep 2001 00:42

Oh S***!

See you down the job centre on Tuesday boys! :(

JB007 19th Sep 2001 01:12

Just to put the record straight :
This is absolute cr@p!

overstress 19th Sep 2001 01:39

Care to enlighten us further, JB?

I heard similar tales of woe at W****side today.

RogerTangoFoxtrotIndigo 19th Sep 2001 04:52

aahhh waterworld :D i was there during the good times. didnt it cost more than a classic to build?

maybe they should sellthe building and keep the planes flying :p :p :p if times get tough watch out for swan a la orange on the menu!

Fly747 19th Sep 2001 11:01

JB007, maybe any attempt at black humour at this time is misguided, apologies for any offence. There is however no point you being in denial. 30k jobs to go at Boeing, "Times" today, concorde may never fly again. We're talking survival here, the threat must be countered and Rod must take swift and decisive action.

[ 19 September 2001: Message edited by: Fly747 ]

Final 3 Greens 19th Sep 2001 11:25

Which 737 fleet at LHR is that then???????

Minesagrolsch 19th Sep 2001 11:51

JB007,
Thanks for that informed contribution.Actually you are right,it is crap.Last week didn't happen and BA are just about to announce an order for 40 Airbus A3XX and they are recruiting 500 more pilots.Is that what you want to hear ?

Final,three greens,is there more than one 737 Fleet at LHR ?

wallup 19th Sep 2001 12:44

Getting a bit heated here.

I thought that there weren't any BA 737s left at LHR, mostly A319s, though I could be wrong.

Any news on the British Airways Citi Express recruitment? I suspect that you may see some guys move from mainline to BACE - which sort of makes sense.

Saw on Teletext last night that City analysts were predicting BA losses of £1m due to the crisis, I don't know why but that seemed an underestimation to me.

qwertyuiop 19th Sep 2001 12:58

Wallup.

You are correct. It was later corrected to £1 billion.

Final 3 Greens 19th Sep 2001 14:44

Minesagrolsch

Not to my knowledge and that one belongs to Midland.

You may see the odd BAR 737 kicking around Heathrow or a Eurofleet 737 from LGW for ops reasons, but the fleets are Airbus'.

Minesagrolsch 19th Sep 2001 15:23

Final 3 Greens.
Thanks for that.But you are talking a load of crap.
There is a dedicated fleet of 737-400's at LHR operated by BA.Nothing to do with Bar or Eog.
They currently operate to places such as Helsinki,Geneva,Budapest as well as domestic stuff such as Glasgow.
The large 737 fleet WAS shut down by some bright management spark for a few months until they decided to re-open it a short time later.Speak to any other BA pilot and they will confirm this.

Pandora 19th Sep 2001 16:13

Final 3 Greens,

Either I have been living on fantasy island for the last 18 months or there are BA B737s at LHR. I should know - I fly them. On Monday Chris Darke was a pax on our flight. He had a lot of interesting info, but nothing to say on the status of the 737 fleet. If someone knows something concrete then let us know. If not - shut up. :mad:

52049er 19th Sep 2001 19:50

400 Flight crew cuts - OK over a year say, how many senior guys are retiring? All Rod + co need to do is stop recruitment for a couple of years (see recent announcements) and voila, 400 fewer pilots, and those remaining earn a lower average. Hope Im not being too obvious here, as I currently lie in the danger zone :eek:

thallam 19th Sep 2001 20:22

We'll doubtless find the real answers very soon. Meanwhile, much of the answer is pretty apparent. The 747-200 was already history.BA will cut those parts of the operation that are currently losing money and stop all cross-subsidisation. This will certainly hit LGW and what is left of the regions very hard. My guess is that we will also see a handfull of 400's in the desert for a while and no more short haul 767's at LHR. Looks like Ayling got it right interms of capacity reduction.
We are bound to see encouragement for part time working and sabbaticals, which may appeal to some longer serving flight crew. As to whether we get compulsory redundancies, who knows. It's never happened quite like that at BA as yet, but these are certainly unusual times.


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