Unpaid STBYS for RYANAIR Contractors
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Strike will never happen . Not enough pilots together to even try and become one. Anybody i spoke to has said that they will never get STN and DUB together to talk. Always easy to talk about doing something but they never get to do anything. Nobody wants to spend there time off trying to get something done and no chance the company will give them time off for it. There is a thing called ERC meetings which are a waste of time. MOL is a bully and nobody is willing to stand up to him and im sad to say that is a fact. This will go on and on and on and on and on but we may as well get to use it. Not enough guts to stop him getting his own way every time.
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Airbusbellend,what on earth are you talking about? Getting passengers to pay for their sick bags? Absolute tosh. If you are really that interested,the sickbags are paid for by an advertiser who positively encourages pax to take them home and then post their holiday snaps away to be developed! Pay for sick bags indeed!! 
Aircraft have not been grounded because of 'stress marks' ,whatever they may be [Anyone have any idea's?] They have been retired,however,because of score marks that were caused by a 3rd party maintenance company during re-paint. There has supposedly been a £10M pound compensation payment made.
You gave me a laugh though.
Aircraft have not been grounded because of 'stress marks' ,whatever they may be [Anyone have any idea's?] They have been retired,however,because of score marks that were caused by a 3rd party maintenance company during re-paint. There has supposedly been a £10M pound compensation payment made.
You gave me a laugh though.
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In the early 90s I happened to get to a very short list as a cadet with a 'conventional airline'. In the final interview post maybe 11 having travelled a considerable distance each time a smug high time appropriately accented pilot told me I had performed exceptionally well through all stages and I was one of 150 for 100 jobs out of 12,000. However as I had amassed fifty hours with a reputable training school I would undoubtably have bad habits which would not go away. I have over 1,000 hours of leisure flying behind me, and abandonded thoughts of commercial flying. My points, (a) MOL and having a go at the Irish is not really acceptable. (b) The smug interviewer is probably the type you are trying to protect, 'ruining the life of an airline pilot'. (c) stop having a go at flash8, I know hundreds of guys who have payed small fortunes, at the best of schools, now with loans, who will do anything to get on that first rung, all I ever hear these days is frozen ATPLs. Like many of you they had a dream, you have realised it, they're trying to. MOL is using the aviation market for pilots like in most other business supply and demand. Yes, you hate him for it, but, the only constant in life is change, and if you can't unite to fight, then put up or shut up. Finally, what about the whistle blower route, or as P1 if you're not happy with your craft, ground it!
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runwayedge:
"fly for food, sleep in paper bag at edge of road, market forces, cabbies have more skills, you lot dont know how lucky you are, the senior cabin crew member is a more important member of the team, live off scraps, pay for water, jumped -up b#st#rds the lot of you, planes fly themselves these days, easy as falling off a log, dont know the meaning of work etc etc etc"!
You're not management are you? What price your Granny? Bet you'd sell her too if the price was right.
Try a new recording mate.
"fly for food, sleep in paper bag at edge of road, market forces, cabbies have more skills, you lot dont know how lucky you are, the senior cabin crew member is a more important member of the team, live off scraps, pay for water, jumped -up b#st#rds the lot of you, planes fly themselves these days, easy as falling off a log, dont know the meaning of work etc etc etc"!
You're not management are you? What price your Granny? Bet you'd sell her too if the price was right.
Try a new recording mate.
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loaded1 - being a qualified experience pilot does not allow you to dictate the market, you might like to by claiming falling standards and safety, but the truth of the matter is that its a buyers market (same old arguement but true!). You have no right to deny anyone the right to work under whatever conditions they judge satisfactory. I agree conditions are being erroded and will continue to be ! market forces. If you want to fly you can fly, and earn good money with good breaks, if you would rather be a prima donna you won't !
I understand how many long serving guys must feel, but that was then, this is now.
I understand how many long serving guys must feel, but that was then, this is now.
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How about contractors having to travel to and from the 'away bases' twice a month in their own time, instead of on duty? And isn't this max. 4 day standby thing in your contract as a contract pilot?
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Hey Wiggy and Rumble to get back to your original question. even if you are a contractor with Storm or Brookfield with Ryanair, you are entitled to Annual leave , minimum 3 weeks per annum.This is EU Legislation and if your Agent is not giving you that then they are breaking the law..... but hey they are breaking the law anyway, UK companies, using offshore companies to place guys in the UK without paying tax and NI, well these two will get their fingers burned pretty quickly., so as Jersey, Isle of Man etc companies fall outside of EU employment legislation I`m afraid they have you stuffed.... dirty stuff eh??
