Boeing 757 Winglet Programme
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Boeing 757 Winglet Programme
Continental airlines anounced a partnership with APB (Aviation Partners Boeing) to install blended winglets on part of its fleet of Boeing short- and mediumhaul aircraft. They have agreed a principle for the winglets to be fitted on eleven Boeing 737-800 aircraft and eleven Boeing 757-200 aircraft with furter options for additional winglet orders in the future.
If they proceed Continental will be the first airline operating "wingleted" 757's. First aircraft to be fitted with the winglets is expected to be in service by June 2005.
Both companies believe the additional winglets will bring considerable fuel burn savings, especially the aircraft is heavier than a 737 and operates on longer duration flights.
I wonder how this will work out in the future. For sure it will look fantastic on aircraft like the 757.
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If they proceed Continental will be the first airline operating "wingleted" 757's. First aircraft to be fitted with the winglets is expected to be in service by June 2005.
Both companies believe the additional winglets will bring considerable fuel burn savings, especially the aircraft is heavier than a 737 and operates on longer duration flights.
I wonder how this will work out in the future. For sure it will look fantastic on aircraft like the 757.
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Was just thinking the same. Presume the winglets will be larger for the 757 than on the 737?
Theres a Krasair 204 outside the window at the moment which i always thought looked better than the 757 anyway!
Theres a Krasair 204 outside the window at the moment which i always thought looked better than the 757 anyway!
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I have to agree, it will look similar to the TU-204. Still think it will be great improvement to aircraft itself. It will get better range capabilities so maybe we can expect a CO 757 at AMS in the near future.
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Winglets
From the mists of my Aerodynamics lectures I seem to remember that Big winglets on a short hauler are a sign of an inefficient wing to begin with!! 
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"If they proceed Continental will be the first airline operating "wingleted" 757's. First aircraft to be fitted with the winglets is expected to be in service by June 2005."
I think you may find quite shortly that the above is not true!
I have been led to believe that there is currently one of the First Choice 757's having them fitted somewhere..............I mean at the end of the wings!!
I think you may find quite shortly that the above is not true!
I have been led to believe that there is currently one of the First Choice 757's having them fitted somewhere..............I mean at the end of the wings!!
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seems a little weird to me since the wingletted 757 is still in a very early fase. You might confuse the TU-204 with a 757 with winglets. I searched the web for information about the aircraft you've named but couldn't find anything about it.
Continental might be the launch customar for the wingletequipped B757-200 and other operators of the 75 also showed interest for the modification.
B.t.w. Certification process will begin within the next few months.
Would be great I you could give me a link where I can find some information about the aircraft you've noticed.
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seems a little weird to me since the wingletted 757 is still in a very early fase. You might confuse the TU-204 with a 757 with winglets. I searched the web for information about the aircraft you've named but couldn't find anything about it.
Continental might be the launch customar for the wingletequipped B757-200 and other operators of the 75 also showed interest for the modification.
B.t.w. Certification process will begin within the next few months.
Would be great I you could give me a link where I can find some information about the aircraft you've noticed.
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It still would be great if they already have them, but since the project is not even in it's certification process I think we'll have to wait for a while.
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superspotter,
Not a wind up. According to our latest Boeing Newsletter "We (First Choice Airways) are looking at being the launch customer for winglets on the 757. We have an available airframe which could be used for first type trials in the USA. The winglets are the same size as on the B737NG (2.5m high) and weigh about 650kgs. Obviously they reduce drag and thus improve fuel consumption. The fuel savings are in the order of 4% and increase with sector length. Still much discussion here, but we are seriously looking at this proposal. We will also look at winglets for the 767 but we will not be in a position to have them fitted prior to summer 2005. This is an interesting idea but of course the fuel savings are all computer generated at present. There will be no hard evidence until airframe trials are conducted."
Personally I would rather they concentrate on addressing the crewing levels and low morale in the Company but that's another thread altogether.
Not a wind up. According to our latest Boeing Newsletter "We (First Choice Airways) are looking at being the launch customer for winglets on the 757. We have an available airframe which could be used for first type trials in the USA. The winglets are the same size as on the B737NG (2.5m high) and weigh about 650kgs. Obviously they reduce drag and thus improve fuel consumption. The fuel savings are in the order of 4% and increase with sector length. Still much discussion here, but we are seriously looking at this proposal. We will also look at winglets for the 767 but we will not be in a position to have them fitted prior to summer 2005. This is an interesting idea but of course the fuel savings are all computer generated at present. There will be no hard evidence until airframe trials are conducted."
Personally I would rather they concentrate on addressing the crewing levels and low morale in the Company but that's another thread altogether.
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Just compare....
Boeing 757
Tupolev 204
Will look almost the same when the winglets are put on. Still think those on the 757 will be bigger.
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Boeing 757
Tupolev 204
Will look almost the same when the winglets are put on. Still think those on the 757 will be bigger.
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Approach_plate,
I was under the impression that Boeing designed the winglets that Airbus uses for NASA and NASA gave the winglet design to Airbus for free. When Boeing wanted to use it NASA told them it would cost them.
The blended winglets are a far superior design. As far as the raked tips go, they were designed back before I was born for the 707.
I was under the impression that Boeing designed the winglets that Airbus uses for NASA and NASA gave the winglet design to Airbus for free. When Boeing wanted to use it NASA told them it would cost them.
The blended winglets are a far superior design. As far as the raked tips go, they were designed back before I was born for the 707.
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I agree...I taxied past a KrasAir TU-204 today at Gatwick and the winglets did not look as big as on the 737s..perhaps a visual illusion caused by the early hour.
As an aside, just wondered when some wag would add another letter between the 's' and the 'A'...
I agree...I taxied past a KrasAir TU-204 today at Gatwick and the winglets did not look as big as on the 737s..perhaps a visual illusion caused by the early hour.
As an aside, just wondered when some wag would add another letter between the 's' and the 'A'...