Air Atlanta/Excel difficulties at the weekend

[dicksynormous]

The element of air atlanta influenced by the excel agreement is a better operation than the rest. it would be nice if the whingin scruffy element of air atlanta ******red off and let the excel crew do the work, job done. rome wasnt built in a day but i wasnt on that job.

[Howlowcanugo]

Should you enjoy flying broken airplanes,exceeding duty periods
Hiding engineering problems then you surely need to get another proffesion.
Should Atlanta remedy these situations this would be a great company.
This is how they stay in the game when others declare bankruptcy an close shop.

[Flybob]

The Excel operation is a small part of AAI and brings in an equally small percentage of the summer revenue. The rest of the operation, primarily the cargo ops is the year round money earner.
However by far the majority of the whinging and moaning comes from the Excel core. Why is that?
If you aint happy, b***er off! And let the rest of us get on with it.
Have a nice one.

[Flightrider]

Flybob, the problematical part of that equation is that you (Air Atlanta) have just bought a 40% stake in the "whingeing core", which does make it rather more difficult for you to tell them to b***r off or vice versa.

Then again, if you upped the stake to nearer 75%, you could probably just tell them what to do and they would have to get on with it, wouldn't they.

Now there's an idea.

[dicksynormous]

Now are we talking about the whinging core of air atlanta pilots (not all) that are flying the excel contract or are we talking about the whinging core of excel pilots whinging about the whinging core of air atlanta pilots whinging about air air atlanta , excel et al, who seem to think turning up for work in an array of costumes that would put panto to shame is acceptable in the uk market.( not to mention the array of validated cornflake packet licences) Come on guys you're on a pedestal in this market, let's at least look as smarmy, i mean professional, as we are percieved to be ,or actually are.( i hope)
Jacket pants , back pack and baseball cap,scruffier than a west country gypsy, all you need is a scrawny alsation and a pack of big issues. Come on, i used to fly in flip flops and shorts in the heat but there is a time and a place.
Dont be late cos you'll F@@K up the brand that gives you credibility here, and you own 40% of it now.

[Flybob]

Flight rider.
Me ol mucker, my post was but a re-buttal to previous. Please read total.
Dicks, ....well said.
As far as I am concerned we all work for same outfit, AAI crewed and organised by excel, by AAI pilots, working airbourne contract. You work it out.
Confused?
The crap is where someone says non UK crews flying to different law or rules, get a grip!
All either JAR licence holders or validated! End of story, by far the most UK based and that will continue to be the case.
Pay below standard as is terms and conditions, however the times are changing. Either live with it and negotiate or leave!
Your choice!
P.S.
Every one is on their own deal, make your own!

[threestable]

Thought Air Atlanta Europe are set to crew most Excel flights when summer sched kicks in. Full time crews, UK AOC, G Reg aircraft,same rules, surely tidier for all once it happens.