Arrogant SR pilots?
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Great figures guv, pity they are complete codswallop.
Max unemployment benefit in Switzerland is er
8200CHF per month or 80% of salary whichever is the lower for a max of 13 months in any 24 month period. That adds up to about er 105k CHF over 2years or 40K Sterling give or take . Oh yes and you have to be married with kids to get that level otherwise it gets slashed.
And by the way you must apply for at least 10 jobs every month, live in Switzerland, have a valid permit, accept the first reasonable job (ANY reasonable job) offered to you by the employment office and it doesnt matter how big the pay cut is either etc etc etc
Max unemployment benefit in Switzerland is er
8200CHF per month or 80% of salary whichever is the lower for a max of 13 months in any 24 month period. That adds up to about er 105k CHF over 2years or 40K Sterling give or take . Oh yes and you have to be married with kids to get that level otherwise it gets slashed.
And by the way you must apply for at least 10 jobs every month, live in Switzerland, have a valid permit, accept the first reasonable job (ANY reasonable job) offered to you by the employment office and it doesnt matter how big the pay cut is either etc etc etc
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No Timber, the Gov and I are not related, but we both have run companies' and have met the payroll (out of our own pockets) and still we survive to offer jobs to those that don't have the guts to do likewise.
Incompetent management will be SR's demise and the court action that will surely follow should be VERY interesting.
As for the SR pilots....well, bite the bullet, what else can they do?
The dole queue forms to the left.
Incompetent management will be SR's demise and the court action that will surely follow should be VERY interesting.
As for the SR pilots....well, bite the bullet, what else can they do?
The dole queue forms to the left.
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Thanks User123. Glad to see someone could correct GUV in in his single minded "pursuit of truth and integrity!" Now that I have read the sorry story of Caledonian Wings, I can see how it is possible for GUV to find the time to be able to write so much rubbish on prune. Now that Crossair are about to become a big name in International Aviation you should apply to them GUV. "Chip on the shoulder" is a prerequisite for employment with them.
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AS usual the sad Guv is wrong,411 also,no personal insults,but hopelessly completely wrong ,1/10...see me.Please donīt ever be in charge of anything ,donīt worry itīs O.K to pretend !To all LX colleagues will you ever get the message that LFSB is in FRANCE it is a large & important European country bordering on Swizerland ,sorry about the ATC strike but pls donīt take up our parking posns.in ZRH letīs get this thing going together,by the way, 22 yrs in SWR is average ;30 would be more like an "old boy"maybe we can learn from each other !
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Nothing seems to change. There are still too many SR pilots out there who can't tell the difference between being among the best pilots and being among the best paid.
It's time they realised that in the whole sad history of SR over the last couple of years, their salaries were simply unsustainable. That some of them are now asking for the same unworkable pay scale to be applied to them in any successor to failed SR would raise serious questions about the presence or otherwise of any common sense.
It's time they realised that in the whole sad history of SR over the last couple of years, their salaries were simply unsustainable. That some of them are now asking for the same unworkable pay scale to be applied to them in any successor to failed SR would raise serious questions about the presence or otherwise of any common sense.
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Cisco Kid - it's all very well saying I'm wrong, but unless you give the correct answer then people will (a) not know what the correct version is; and (b) think you're talking a load of bollox.
Given your rather disjointed series of replies, I think that the latter may well be the case anyway!
I find it rather strange that as an alleged pilot you are unaware that the EuroAirport in fact serves no less than three countries. In order to help you brush up on your knowledge, here's the link: Euroairport So, nil points for you on that one then!
Given your rather disjointed series of replies, I think that the latter may well be the case anyway!
I find it rather strange that as an alleged pilot you are unaware that the EuroAirport in fact serves no less than three countries. In order to help you brush up on your knowledge, here's the link: Euroairport So, nil points for you on that one then!
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If freedom of speech has any value, it means that people like Guv and his many detractors can occupy space on forums such as this, side by side. The alternative is socialism, where freedom of speech is suppressed by a ruling clique who cannot find a means of articulating their views in a way which would convince the reader/listener. Guv can be demolished by reasoned argument, as user123 has demonstrated. As Churchill said, plagiarising, I believe, from an earlier philosopher, "I disagree with you views, but I will defend your right to say them."
The road to totalitarianism is well trod and begins with the repression of freedom of speech.
The road to totalitarianism is well trod and begins with the repression of freedom of speech.
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OK GUV ,the information given by user 123 regarding Swiss unemployment benefits is full & correct in every sense..your information is wrong.LFSB ,note the F in the designator lies geographically in France & is subject to French rules &Atc,meteo etc .it may serve 3 countries but not when French ATC are on strike !nothing alleged about me old boy !
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Cisco Kid, I agree with your point of view (well the one on page one of this very interesting thread).
It is about time for both LX and SR to shake down all our "cultural heritage" and try to work together.
To LX pilots: we could eventually maybe profit from SR pilots integration. This could effectively push our salaries slightly up. It would also give a fresh air of professionalism that I sometimes miss since working for LX. We have plenty to learn about them
Also integration of SR pilots might be our only chance of survival. If we'd confined ourselves to profitable European only ops, our company would have to be downsized by roughly 1/3. This could affect all of us
The aggressive stance of CCP is not representative of the pilots thinking 
To SR pilots: you will have your salary truncated. You will have to pay for 50% of your pension fund On the positive, you will still have a flying job (for the ones who really like it ). It will be varied. You will, at least on the European network, spend more time home as we have less nightstops. The aggressive stance of Aeropers is not representative of the pilots thinking
Let's do it and stop shooting at each other!
(some want to keep their bullets for The Gov )
It is about time for both LX and SR to shake down all our "cultural heritage" and try to work together.
To LX pilots: we could eventually maybe profit from SR pilots integration. This could effectively push our salaries slightly up. It would also give a fresh air of professionalism that I sometimes miss since working for LX. We have plenty to learn about them
Also integration of SR pilots might be our only chance of survival. If we'd confined ourselves to profitable European only ops, our company would have to be downsized by roughly 1/3. This could affect all of us
The aggressive stance of CCP is not representative of the pilots thinking To SR pilots: you will have your salary truncated. You will have to pay for 50% of your pension fund
On the positive, you will still have a flying job (for the ones who really like it ). It will be varied. You will, at least on the European network, spend more time home as we have less nightstops. The aggressive stance of Aeropers is not representative of the pilots thinking Let's do it and stop shooting at each other!
(some want to keep their bullets for The Gov
)
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Wrong there Guv. The payout is for 1 year -also it has a cap below the 80% you mention -but only if there is no similar work available. If Crossair offers work to a proportion of the SR guys and they refuse it, they will have a hard time qualifying for that kind of dole deal.
[ 16 October 2001: Message edited by: Few Cloudy ]
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Fly4fud
I followed your postings a bit.
Why are you writing ALWAYS in a way as you would represent the vast majority of Crossair pilots!?
You must be one of this older ******
lx-copilots they hired 3 years ago when they accepted even the weakest applicant.
How the f**k may you say that the CCP does not represent the opinion of the majority of the lx-pilots?!
You`re name says everything; I am fly4fud and I am proud of having had a 40% salary cut
and by the way I am an asslicker and I would fly for free if necessary as I am a FLYING FREAK!
Boy be careful I am tracking you down !
Your profile is quite rare at lx
Former SR Technician
age around 40
RJ F/O or junior Captain
Jumbolino pilot pull the SPEEDBRAKE!
I followed your postings a bit.
Why are you writing ALWAYS in a way as you would represent the vast majority of Crossair pilots!?
You must be one of this older ******
lx-copilots they hired 3 years ago when they accepted even the weakest applicant.
How the f**k may you say that the CCP does not represent the opinion of the majority of the lx-pilots?!
You`re name says everything; I am fly4fud and I am proud of having had a 40% salary cut
and by the way I am an asslicker and I would fly for free if necessary as I am a FLYING FREAK!
Boy be careful I am tracking you down !
Your profile is quite rare at lx
Former SR Technician
age around 40
RJ F/O or junior Captain
Jumbolino pilot pull the SPEEDBRAKE!
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Thanks for that clarification, Few Cloudy - I was going on information provided by a third party from Alpine parts. Not having worked there myself, I don't have any first-hand knowledge of how the system works.
So ... it looks like things will get rather interesting for those SR guys then if they turn down the LX offer!
Interesting times ahead!
So ... it looks like things will get rather interesting for those SR guys then if they turn down the LX offer!
Interesting times ahead!