Overnight at the Hotel 747-400
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Incident happened as described. Airline was Korean.
The incident I reported was not Korean. In some ways this makes it even more bizarre. I was beginning to think that I was living in some Lewis Carroll story! I knew what I reported was true but seemingly I was the only one. Now we find out that at least two carriers cancelled late at night and left the PAX on board, and no-one on this forum has even heard a whisper despite the large number of Heathrow staff who post here!
In the case I reported, the flight and cabin crew definitely left the aircraft and the flight next afternoon left with a completely new crew.
The journalist accusations are quite interesting. What possible agenda could I have in fabricating such a story? If I was a journalist who had got a whiff of a story and wanted more info, as has been pointed out a number of times on this thread, there would be more than enough angry passengers more than willing to tell their story.
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Ah! So it was more than one carrier!
The Korean had crew and pax on board . Your story is
the flight and cabin crew definitely left the aircraft
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Fair point.
What I meant was there were at least two carriers that cancelled flights late and left the passengers on board. The crew leaving the aircraft was only part of the story.
SoS
What I meant was there were at least two carriers that cancelled flights late and left the passengers on board. The crew leaving the aircraft was only part of the story.
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'Ere, what do you mean? Servicing is an important function!
"engineering cover" - but he is just the charge hand doing the oils and looks like an engineer.
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S O S and Humble Pie
SOS, I have no problem with my Ego, and will eat humble pie with the best of em....in fact our crew make me do that regularly.
But your playing with words now.....the Korean thing is a red herring, as I have also sat [daytime] for 3.5 hours at Heathrow when the Bridge would not retract and then the tug wasn't there when the second departure slot time past.
But that was fine, as is the Korean thing as the crew were there and supervising the show.
Your initial post still stands as a "Wind Up" with NO crew, until some hard data says this security breach actually occurred.
Then my friend you can have as much pie as you can swallow.
But your playing with words now.....the Korean thing is a red herring, as I have also sat [daytime] for 3.5 hours at Heathrow when the Bridge would not retract and then the tug wasn't there when the second departure slot time past.
But that was fine, as is the Korean thing as the crew were there and supervising the show.
Your initial post still stands as a "Wind Up" with NO crew, until some hard data says this security breach actually occurred.
Then my friend you can have as much pie as you can swallow.
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Agree with rotor - Korean sounds like an aircraft which missed slots and kept the pax on - happened to me many times, once for 4 hours. SoS still think you're talking bo@+£$ks. Either come up with facts - it has no bearing on you proving it - or shut your mouth and please let this disappear off the bottom of the screen.
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Sorry Bus, I didn't mean to offend - without the oil we go nowhere. It's just that many flight crew have no idea of the functions of the various engineering staff that surround an aircraft. You will still see guys waving the tech log at a refueller...
Perhaps a system of recognition uniforms, white coats for supervisors and hi-vis overalls for mechanics. Then we know who to approach for a particular problem.
Perhaps a system of recognition uniforms, white coats for supervisors and hi-vis overalls for mechanics. Then we know who to approach for a particular problem.
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He or she has never ever posted anything technical, specific or intelligent
Just can smell a wind up when I see it.
SoS, come on, fess up once and for all, what's your agenda?
- or shut your mouth and please let this disappear off the bottom of the screen.
All I did was post up a report of something that I was told by a trusted friend which has been verified by others on that flight and now by correspondence I have seen with the carrier concerned.
I can understand some people finding it funny that no-one else on this forum could verify what I had claimed, but instead of a serious discussion about something which should be of concern to all in aviation, most replys consisted of 'this must be a wind up' or 'you must be a journalist'
For those who want further information I suggest you contact Japan Air Lines and ask them about Flight JAL 244 on 29 January 2004.
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Very interesting commends on this thread, however rescue 3 you are right on this one. It was the JL422 to KIX and finally operated the next day around mid afternoon, after the shambles of the night before, with regards to BAA, de-icing equip, hotel rooms, and not to mention transportation for hundreds of pax. From wot I believe it was a joke that night at LHR (in general)and wot happened wasnt the first nor the last.
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SoS, you wouldn't happen to mean the JAL422 28 Jan 04?. Flt was delayed due to wx at LHR until lunchtime 29/04 when it operated outbound as the JAL422D.
Lots of f**k ups at LHR that night but looks like Japan were trying to avoid the costs of overnight transport and accomodation and got caught out when the flight was eventually cancelled. Flight and cabin crew departed, leaving a handful of ground staff to pick up the pieces.
Correspondence with JAL suggests rather large compensation payouts. On the subject of press interest, apparently one of the passengers did a phone interview with BBC Radio but it was never broadcast, as the Hutton report was dominating the news that night.
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