Virgin Skipper has a Flipper... NOT
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One can easily see that the ezy pilots who do not have any authority on anything at easy, are opposed captains ultimate authority and responsibility for safe flight. Also, VS have responded in very appropriate manner, confirming that they are supporting their commanders in a difficult situation. EasyJet would NEVER support their pilots in a similar situation, on the contrary they usually sack them.
No wonder there are tens of easy pilots going to Virgin, captains as well. Good luck to them; they are going to work a proper airline who looks after their troops with staff travel, proper pension contributions etc.
No wonder there are tens of easy pilots going to Virgin, captains as well. Good luck to them; they are going to work a proper airline who looks after their troops with staff travel, proper pension contributions etc.
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crewrest the incident in IAD is what this thread's about! Jerricho, terry thomas and jumpseater have gone off-topic. I assumed TightSlot was asking about the subject of this thread! Was I wrong?
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scroggs...
Disagree... Go to thread page 1 and you'll see this has nothing to do with IAD! It was well before that....
It concerned an "incident" at another US gateway. In that it appears VS supported the skipper (quite rightly), it is really a "non-incident", hence why there are no further facts (nor should there be).
NoD
Disagree... Go to thread page 1 and you'll see this has nothing to do with IAD! It was well before that....
It concerned an "incident" at another US gateway. In that it appears VS supported the skipper (quite rightly), it is really a "non-incident", hence why there are no further facts (nor should there be).
NoD
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Capitano,
That is unless one of your passengers is called Courtney Love. Then your chairman can make a fool of himself, and also of his poor crew who had to deal with the nice young lady.
BTW the grass is always greener!
That is unless one of your passengers is called Courtney Love. Then your chairman can make a fool of himself, and also of his poor crew who had to deal with the nice young lady.
BTW the grass is always greener!
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I think all of us that operate transport aircraft are involved in the learning curve of human nature. I am mostly involved with the holiday crowd who generally speaking can be a little more rowdy then the typical business crowd. All of us will at some time or other be involved with this type of situation, armed with ammunition from a previous experience, one thing that I've learned is to try to read between the lines of the ground staff, along with a consult with my cabin crew, main factor being that if I receive a heads up about a troublsome individual prior to pushback, I have ample and verifiable justification for my decision, not just out there on my own because I can.
In Capt. Crooks incident it may have been a prudent decision to find an alternate route to the aircraft, no crew just have to deal with walking the gauntlet of irate pax.
D L
I think all of us that operate transport aircraft are involved in the learning curve of human nature. I am mostly involved with the holiday crowd who generally speaking can be a little more rowdy then the typical business crowd. All of us will at some time or other be involved with this type of situation, armed with ammunition from a previous experience, one thing that I've learned is to try to read between the lines of the ground staff, along with a consult with my cabin crew, main factor being that if I receive a heads up about a troublsome individual prior to pushback, I have ample and verifiable justification for my decision, not just out there on my own because I can.
In Capt. Crooks incident it may have been a prudent decision to find an alternate route to the aircraft, no crew just have to deal with walking the gauntlet of irate pax.
D L
