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I was flying and ATC ordered us to land at nearest available airport or to route back to home base. As it happened Air Force 1 was not too far away from us at the time.
All the news media are reporting that they do not think that ANY commercial pilot would EVER contemplate flying a large jet liner into a building and cause mass destruction
and that most likely the aircraft had been piloted by the terroists.
They are saying that even a relatively in-experienced pilot could fly the planes straight and level and point it towards a building...hence the jets were under terrorist control at the time.
All aircraft are grounded but FAA are apparently going to make some sort of announcment at 5pm EST.
They have conceeded that the other 22 intl flights still inbound for the US will be allowed to land in the US instead of Canada but will have a military escort and if they veer near any buildings they will be shot down...
My thoughts to all concerned.....still is so incomprehensible that someone could sit down and think up something like this
A sad day for mankind....let alone families of all those concerned and aviation
I fear that war is at hand....
All the news media are reporting that they do not think that ANY commercial pilot would EVER contemplate flying a large jet liner into a building and cause mass destruction
and that most likely the aircraft had been piloted by the terroists.
They are saying that even a relatively in-experienced pilot could fly the planes straight and level and point it towards a building...hence the jets were under terrorist control at the time.
All aircraft are grounded but FAA are apparently going to make some sort of announcment at 5pm EST.
They have conceeded that the other 22 intl flights still inbound for the US will be allowed to land in the US instead of Canada but will have a military escort and if they veer near any buildings they will be shot down...
My thoughts to all concerned.....still is so incomprehensible that someone could sit down and think up something like this
A sad day for mankind....let alone families of all those concerned and aviation
I fear that war is at hand....
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2 American Airlines aircraft, 2 United Airlines aircraft, and apparently 2 aircraft inbound over the atlantic that are not responding to the FAA.
My prayers go out to the innocent victims and their families
My prayers go out to the innocent victims and their families
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Are thoughts are with all you Americans during this very difficult and disturbing time.
We in the UK have long suffered from terrorist acts in our towns and cities, some of whom received help and support from misguided people in the USA including Senators and Presidents.
What is needed is an agreement that we do not deal with, or support organisations that are not democratic. Unfortunately far too often sentimentality and the view of whether someone is for us or against us is allowed to cloud the issue.
We in the UK have long suffered from terrorist acts in our towns and cities, some of whom received help and support from misguided people in the USA including Senators and Presidents.
What is needed is an agreement that we do not deal with, or support organisations that are not democratic. Unfortunately far too often sentimentality and the view of whether someone is for us or against us is allowed to cloud the issue.
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You can't believe that people can be this evil.
I my self have complained about security but you will not hear me again.
God bless the victim's and there family's.
I hope America can get there country back running and find these people.
I still can't believe it.
Neil
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I my self have complained about security but you will not hear me again.
God bless the victim's and there family's.
I hope America can get there country back running and find these people.
I still can't believe it.
Neil
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This has been a truely unbeleivable day, i turned on the tv just to see the second plane impacting the WTC, its like some sort of surreal dream.
One of my memories of flying into Newark airport was the manhatten skyline, now all of a sudden its all changed. Future generations of people will be told of the day this event happened, i find it hard to believe and i watched it live on TV. The question will be asked over and over again:
Where were you the day the World Trade Centre collapsed?
can anything ever be the same again? are aircraft flight decks going to become impenatrable fortresses to stop these terrorists gaining entry to the flight deck?
There was nothing anybody could do stop this attrocity, i mean, would you want to be the pilot of a fighter jet tasked to intercept and shoot down a passenger jet laden with a few hundred passengers knowing that if you dont then an even bigger catastrophe will occur? I think not.
the fact of the matter is, should anybody manage to hijack another jet anywhere in the world we, the people on the ground are powerless to do anything and must simply sit back and wait for the impact.
I feel for the ATC in the NY area who must have been able to see what was happening, what could he/she do to stop it? The answer: Nothing!
Finally my condolences to anybody involved in this act of terrorism, whether it be Flight Crew, passengers, office workers and other innocent bystanders. Coming from Northern Ireland i suppose in some ways hearing about terrorism is nothing new to me, but this has hit especially deep down, not only becuase i watched events unfold, but also because as a pilot hoping one day to fly commercial jets it shows that there is perhaps a flaw or frailty in airline/airport security that must be dealt with immediatly.
RIP
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One of my memories of flying into Newark airport was the manhatten skyline, now all of a sudden its all changed. Future generations of people will be told of the day this event happened, i find it hard to believe and i watched it live on TV. The question will be asked over and over again:
Where were you the day the World Trade Centre collapsed?
can anything ever be the same again? are aircraft flight decks going to become impenatrable fortresses to stop these terrorists gaining entry to the flight deck?
There was nothing anybody could do stop this attrocity, i mean, would you want to be the pilot of a fighter jet tasked to intercept and shoot down a passenger jet laden with a few hundred passengers knowing that if you dont then an even bigger catastrophe will occur? I think not.
the fact of the matter is, should anybody manage to hijack another jet anywhere in the world we, the people on the ground are powerless to do anything and must simply sit back and wait for the impact.
I feel for the ATC in the NY area who must have been able to see what was happening, what could he/she do to stop it? The answer: Nothing!
Finally my condolences to anybody involved in this act of terrorism, whether it be Flight Crew, passengers, office workers and other innocent bystanders. Coming from Northern Ireland i suppose in some ways hearing about terrorism is nothing new to me, but this has hit especially deep down, not only becuase i watched events unfold, but also because as a pilot hoping one day to fly commercial jets it shows that there is perhaps a flaw or frailty in airline/airport security that must be dealt with immediatly.
RIP
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In the Fourth Surah of the Q'uran is written:
My guess is that God is well acquainted with what these yobs did. Perhaps we should give Him a helping hand with the retribution.
Men's minds are evil, and naturally inclined to covetousness. But if ye are kind to women and children, and fear to harm them, God is well acquainted with what ye do.
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I got a few things to say regarding this horrible, terrible incident;
1) I know its easy for me to say, but i personally, and i presume many people on this BB would rather die at the hands of the terrorists on the plane than knowingly crash it into a building.
2) Whoever is behind this, and i know for definate ITV have mentioned Osama Bin Laden, are dead. maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but there is a sniper bullet or smart bomb with their name on it.
3) I ask for all on the bb to pray to whoever you hold God to be, that the people behind this despicable act are found and brought to bear for their action.
I've just heard that AF1 has landed at an "undisclosed air base". Personally, i thought he wouldnt come down till at least saturday, and i must say i admire the man. I wouldnt want to be in his shoes.
September 11th, 20001; A day which will live in infamy.
im going to have to stop typing now, my hands are shaking too much.
god rest all those poor souls who perished
1) I know its easy for me to say, but i personally, and i presume many people on this BB would rather die at the hands of the terrorists on the plane than knowingly crash it into a building.
2) Whoever is behind this, and i know for definate ITV have mentioned Osama Bin Laden, are dead. maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but there is a sniper bullet or smart bomb with their name on it.
3) I ask for all on the bb to pray to whoever you hold God to be, that the people behind this despicable act are found and brought to bear for their action.
I've just heard that AF1 has landed at an "undisclosed air base". Personally, i thought he wouldnt come down till at least saturday, and i must say i admire the man. I wouldnt want to be in his shoes.
September 11th, 20001; A day which will live in infamy.
im going to have to stop typing now, my hands are shaking too much.
god rest all those poor souls who perished
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Words fail,
I was born and raised in New York and I feel physically sick at this horrific attack. Those poor people, just starting the day at work, the same as millions the world over and now...
Anyone who attacks the United States is attacking democracy and our very way of life, an attack on the US is an attack on all of us. Noone can escape that fact.
Nobody attacks the United States and gets away with it.
God bless all those people who have suffered today and god bless America.
I was born and raised in New York and I feel physically sick at this horrific attack. Those poor people, just starting the day at work, the same as millions the world over and now...
Anyone who attacks the United States is attacking democracy and our very way of life, an attack on the US is an attack on all of us. Noone can escape that fact.
Nobody attacks the United States and gets away with it.
God bless all those people who have suffered today and god bless America.
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I've just watched the whole thing on CNN and I can't get the idea out of my head that this is just a bad movie.
This is what is called Assymetric War peculiar to the new Century. I don't think it's over yet.
God help the US and God help those who did it.
I've just watched the whole thing on CNN and I can't get the idea out of my head that this is just a bad movie.
This is what is called Assymetric War peculiar to the new Century. I don't think it's over yet.
God help the US and God help those who did it.
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As Admiral Yamamoto once said:
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping Giant"
Those who are responsible are in a world of sh*t and had better just pray to whatever diety they worship.
The President has spoken fron a SAC base Barksdale) in Louisiana and has asked the Amercian people to remain calm. We will. However, we will never forget.
Steve
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping Giant"
Those who are responsible are in a world of sh*t and had better just pray to whatever diety they worship.
The President has spoken fron a SAC base Barksdale) in Louisiana and has asked the Amercian people to remain calm. We will. However, we will never forget.
Steve
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OneWorld22:
It's just that until now the United States got away with attacking everyone else. Like the schoolyard bully who finally discovers that violence can work both ways.
Nobody attacks the United States and gets away with it.
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Dave Hedgehog--but if this is a Muslim, to them, death is wonderful---in heaven they will have 70 virgins, and all their family goes to heaven also, so it's not a punishment. One punishment might be to make sure their bodies are wrapped in pigskin, as a deterrent to future suicide bombers.
Winston, the US doesn't attack civlians like this.
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Winston, the US doesn't attack civlians like this.
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This is absolutely dumbfounding. It's like watching a bad dream.
This will mark a comprehensive review worldwide of airport security, and will have a profound effect on the way we go about our jobs.
My heart goes out to all the crew, crews' families, pax, WTC workers, rescue workers et al. This is a massive catastrophe.
This will mark a comprehensive review worldwide of airport security, and will have a profound effect on the way we go about our jobs.
My heart goes out to all the crew, crews' families, pax, WTC workers, rescue workers et al. This is a massive catastrophe.
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Unbelievable.
Tony Blair has just said that all private flights have been grounded unless specifically authorised and routes for all traffic have been altered to prevent overflights of London! Does this mean London City is closed?
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Tony Blair has just said that all private flights have been grounded unless specifically authorised and routes for all traffic have been altered to prevent overflights of London! Does this mean London City is closed?
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Bubette, I can't imagine any murderer of inoccent lives being rewarded with all those things. Suicide is forbidden for sure. Killing the inoccent is forbidden for sure. Isn't it easy enough for you to see and say that these yobs are contradicting their own belief. 
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So many eloquently put posts.....Words simply fail me today.
I do think that, no matter what fellow PPRUNER's views of the USA may be (Winston Smith), they are entirely irrelevant today and in this context always will be. This is beyond doubt a series of tragedies only ever heard of (if then, and certainly not involving large civilian aircraft) in situations of war. Nobody could ever be accused of asking for THIS. I still cannot get my head around any of it.
My thoughts really are with each and every person affected by this utter tragedy.
My deepest sympathies to all concerned.
Clearly the worst day for aviation ever in my humble opinion.
USA airspace now closed until 2359z on September 12th.
I do think that, no matter what fellow PPRUNER's views of the USA may be (Winston Smith), they are entirely irrelevant today and in this context always will be. This is beyond doubt a series of tragedies only ever heard of (if then, and certainly not involving large civilian aircraft) in situations of war. Nobody could ever be accused of asking for THIS. I still cannot get my head around any of it.
My thoughts really are with each and every person affected by this utter tragedy.
My deepest sympathies to all concerned.
Clearly the worst day for aviation ever in my humble opinion.
USA airspace now closed until 2359z on September 12th.
Winston,
Go **** your androgynous self. When has the U.S. done such an act?
It is only because of the current laws and regulations that I don't say more about you.
We have done more for this world than any other in human history. We ask for your help to stand against acts like this.
Go **** your androgynous self. When has the U.S. done such an act?
It is only because of the current laws and regulations that I don't say more about you.
We have done more for this world than any other in human history. We ask for your help to stand against acts like this.