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i am recieving this information second hand, but as i understand the canadian is still in malta ( 1 or 2 days old information). also i have not yet confirmed which pilot is invovled. i am awaiting more details and will share with the group as i recieve them.
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The man to ask is Joseph Treeby-Ward, the Head of Citizenship and Expatriate Affairs.....he would have a definite line on this whole fiasco........he is available at 3 Castille Place, Valletta or
[email protected].........
[email protected].........
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I doubt that you will have much success with Mr.Treeby-Ward : he has a layer of minor officials as thick as treacle between him and such enquiries. That being said, I did manage to speak with him on one occasion and he was a gentleman personified.
Trouble is that this issue looks a rather complex one from the government perspective, and not a lot will be said until it is
a) brushed under the carpet, in which case we will hear nothing
or
b) it transpires that this was not a simple matter of the
immigration rules being bent, and some foriegn nationals fleeced. If more serious crimes were committed, it will come out in the press under a very small headline.
Curious though that there is not a sniff of this in the local press.
Means it's being ignored, or taken very seriously..take your pick
Trouble is that this issue looks a rather complex one from the government perspective, and not a lot will be said until it is
a) brushed under the carpet, in which case we will hear nothing
or
b) it transpires that this was not a simple matter of the
immigration rules being bent, and some foriegn nationals fleeced. If more serious crimes were committed, it will come out in the press under a very small headline.
Curious though that there is not a sniff of this in the local press.
Means it's being ignored, or taken very seriously..take your pick
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micallef news
spoken with a friend in Malta. He has heard about this saga. Most of the local aviation community are following the story and talking about it! This site has got over 6,000 hits in 3 days!
It seems some heads are going to start rolling real soon.....Malta CAA want to locate Ray Micallef. has anybody seen him? Tell him to call the CAA in Malta immediately. I have heard the local press have also got onto the story and are actively invesigating this story. This is going to be BIG as it has embarrased a lot of people. I also heard his cheques are not being honoured by the bank. Can someone confirm this?
Has anybody got any more news about the company? The press are reading.......
Msg to Raymond V Micallef...... 'bull**** can only take you so far until it flies back in your face'
It seems some heads are going to start rolling real soon.....Malta CAA want to locate Ray Micallef. has anybody seen him? Tell him to call the CAA in Malta immediately. I have heard the local press have also got onto the story and are actively invesigating this story. This is going to be BIG as it has embarrased a lot of people. I also heard his cheques are not being honoured by the bank. Can someone confirm this?
Has anybody got any more news about the company? The press are reading.......
Msg to Raymond V Micallef...... 'bull**** can only take you so far until it flies back in your face'
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Not that I want to defend anybody here but I am finding it rather strange that all this is being written. The exact and official details and implications are not yet known and I can only take all that is said with a pinch of salt. I think most of the posts here are by people who know this guy very very well and must have had some horrible experiences working or knowing the guy. I am far from trying to defend anyone but I think one should be sure before drawing conclusions and communicating to others such bad info on people if the case is personal.
From past experience I had in this country and from the many people I know there one thing is certain. It is hard to start some kind of business especially this type as one finds opposition from everywhere because only ‘THE BIG POWERFUL GUYS RULE’ and the ‘sour grapes’ attitude is endemic unfortunately. From what I can see this European 2000 is managed by some weak men who do not know the right people to succeed and surpass all opposition. This I say because if they knew the right people they would have started operations ages ago. Finally I want to say that I honestly hope that the posts are not personally oriented against a person to punish for some personal action and wish everyone keeps in mind that we are only hearing one side of the story which is not yet confirmed.
From past experience I had in this country and from the many people I know there one thing is certain. It is hard to start some kind of business especially this type as one finds opposition from everywhere because only ‘THE BIG POWERFUL GUYS RULE’ and the ‘sour grapes’ attitude is endemic unfortunately. From what I can see this European 2000 is managed by some weak men who do not know the right people to succeed and surpass all opposition. This I say because if they knew the right people they would have started operations ages ago. Finally I want to say that I honestly hope that the posts are not personally oriented against a person to punish for some personal action and wish everyone keeps in mind that we are only hearing one side of the story which is not yet confirmed.
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Freccia, I am sure that most people take your point.. however..if you have lived there you will know that employing people without a work permit is a big NO-NO, and having them arrested because they do not happen to have the work permits that the person reporting the individuals is required to obtain is "not quite cricket old boy".
Allegedly this employer had a financial interest in having his pilots deported before he was obliged to pay them, given that this is a rumour and news board, as such postings here may pre-warn others before they pack their bags for Malta.
True, it is always hard to start a company, but there are plenty of successful and legitimate businesses on Malta, who have not used the "Family network" and are founded and run on sound ethical and financial principals.
Allegedly this employer had a financial interest in having his pilots deported before he was obliged to pay them, given that this is a rumour and news board, as such postings here may pre-warn others before they pack their bags for Malta.
True, it is always hard to start a company, but there are plenty of successful and legitimate businesses on Malta, who have not used the "Family network" and are founded and run on sound ethical and financial principals.
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What Makes a Good Buisnessman
Freccia is right in a sense that we should give the guy his say.
What I wish is that this CEO, Ray Micallef, will deny the following:
1-he did not pay his pilots
2-he did not pay his engineers
3-he gave false promises
3-operated illegally from Malta
4-he did not pay the agreed expenses for re-current training on
Metro type to pilots
5-was decietful to his employees
6-issued cheques which were dishonoured by the bank
7-employed foriegn pilots without a work permit
8-had some of his pilots arrested by the local authorities
9-had a Part 135 removed from one company then moved to another and it seems also rejected.
10-unable to get a JAA licence to operate from Malta beacuse of who he is not who he knows.
11-his REPUTATION??? (No comment at this stage)
Is this normal buisness ethics for a new company. I think not.
In short his buisness ethics are a shade of grey bordering on black. I wonder what credit rating European 2000 Airlines would have (1 star minus if it exists!)
Please answer for us Freccia (understand from your profile you are a Capt on a B767 based in Italy
)
What I wish is that this CEO, Ray Micallef, will deny the following:
1-he did not pay his pilots
2-he did not pay his engineers
3-he gave false promises
3-operated illegally from Malta
4-he did not pay the agreed expenses for re-current training on
Metro type to pilots
5-was decietful to his employees
6-issued cheques which were dishonoured by the bank
7-employed foriegn pilots without a work permit
8-had some of his pilots arrested by the local authorities
9-had a Part 135 removed from one company then moved to another and it seems also rejected.
10-unable to get a JAA licence to operate from Malta beacuse of who he is not who he knows.
11-his REPUTATION??? (No comment at this stage)
Is this normal buisness ethics for a new company. I think not.
In short his buisness ethics are a shade of grey bordering on black. I wonder what credit rating European 2000 Airlines would have (1 star minus if it exists!)
Please answer for us Freccia (understand from your profile you are a Capt on a B767 based in Italy
)
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freccia & update
i believe that freccia IS Mr. Ray Micallef.
received a PM from one of the arrested piots. the attemp (life) is being dealt with by the authorities and i have been asked to keep tight lipped.
should be in the news soon...
received a PM from one of the arrested piots. the attemp (life) is being dealt with by the authorities and i have been asked to keep tight lipped.
should be in the news soon...
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ECAM..I am not Ray Micallef I assure you. As I said I do not even know this Ray Micallef and even if the Maltese aviation scene was and is of interest to me I have not heard this name mentioned before and therefore I have no interest in protecting him or as you imply. To get you in the picture I once was thinking of starting a similar business with Maltese people but I transferred my attention somewhere else for reasons mentioned before (pity).
Anyway I fully agree with Hostie and employing people without a work permit is a big NO-NO and if this is the case I agree that something should be done so that these things do not happen. ECAM This is Maltese and is licensed to fly these aircraft (according to the profile) oppure he was he not given the job? Why did European 2000 request foreigners when Maltese pilots could fly the plane?
Not paying pilots is another big NO-NO plus a number of other things that are rumoured. What I said is that the company European 2000, if all this is true, is as you say…should not be trusted but until rumours turn into facts I feel that waiting for such sad rumours in Malta aviation to start an orgy of personal attacks is not appropriate. If somebody feels something unjust was done to him he should settle things in court.
To answer YGHP I also agree with what he says. The 11 points mentioned if true are horrible and cannot imagine somebody getting away with all that! What I don’t quite get is comments like “a cowboy like Micallef” “crook” Bull****ter etc which in my opinion are out of context. I might be wrong and stand to be corrected on this.
Anyway to cut it short, I am quite happy to see what is going on as the story unfolds and will be visiting these forums often but I don’t wish this issue to end up out of context and acts only as a personal target range between people because all interest and benefit will be lost. I will also be trying to possibly get some additional info and will keep you posted. Ciao
Anyway I fully agree with Hostie and employing people without a work permit is a big NO-NO and if this is the case I agree that something should be done so that these things do not happen. ECAM This is Maltese and is licensed to fly these aircraft (according to the profile) oppure he was he not given the job? Why did European 2000 request foreigners when Maltese pilots could fly the plane?
Not paying pilots is another big NO-NO plus a number of other things that are rumoured. What I said is that the company European 2000, if all this is true, is as you say…should not be trusted but until rumours turn into facts I feel that waiting for such sad rumours in Malta aviation to start an orgy of personal attacks is not appropriate. If somebody feels something unjust was done to him he should settle things in court.
To answer YGHP I also agree with what he says. The 11 points mentioned if true are horrible and cannot imagine somebody getting away with all that! What I don’t quite get is comments like “a cowboy like Micallef” “crook” Bull****ter etc which in my opinion are out of context. I might be wrong and stand to be corrected on this.
Anyway to cut it short, I am quite happy to see what is going on as the story unfolds and will be visiting these forums often but I don’t wish this issue to end up out of context and acts only as a personal target range between people because all interest and benefit will be lost. I will also be trying to possibly get some additional info and will keep you posted. Ciao
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Unbelievable
it appears that Mr. Micallef is making more false reports. this time to the FAA that the pilots in question were not properly licenced. this AFTER they (pilots) all attended FAR 135 training in the USa and had checkrides with an FAA examiner!
this man must be stopped, just as those before him were...
Al Capone,
Bugsy Segal,
Two Gun Alterie,
Bonnie and Clyde, and...
Mr. Raymond V Micallef and his chief pilot Gilles Reveillac (Micallef & Reveillac)
i am watching the local news and will advise everyone when this is aried on the teli or papers.
this man must be stopped, just as those before him were...
Al Capone,
Bugsy Segal,
Two Gun Alterie,
Bonnie and Clyde, and...
Mr. Raymond V Micallef and his chief pilot Gilles Reveillac (Micallef & Reveillac)
i am watching the local news and will advise everyone when this is aried on the teli or papers.
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Most likely Freccia, I can admit and hope NOT all 11 items are TRUE. What I can say is that at least most of them are true.
When I read that other topic on this website regarding Europen 2000 (PPRuNe Forums - Airlines..Routes) started 15 July 2003... The pilots had to pay 12000 USD to do their recurrency...???
I have been there and done this for:
+/- 6200 USD Flight Safety
+ 1500 USD ticket Roundtrip (Europe-San Antonio-Europe)
+ 750 USD Hotel
=
+/- 8500 USD
I have to admit we had a car of a friend...
BUT 12.000 USD,,,... I have some question marks here... It might be the captain checkride in the real plane...??? But still the difference is huge...??? The pilots involved could have checked this out before doing the recurrency or not... Flight Safety is open to anybody and will answer these questions direct.
Later
When I read that other topic on this website regarding Europen 2000 (PPRuNe Forums - Airlines..Routes) started 15 July 2003... The pilots had to pay 12000 USD to do their recurrency...???
I have been there and done this for:
+/- 6200 USD Flight Safety
+ 1500 USD ticket Roundtrip (Europe-San Antonio-Europe)
+ 750 USD Hotel
=
+/- 8500 USD
I have to admit we had a car of a friend...
BUT 12.000 USD,,,... I have some question marks here... It might be the captain checkride in the real plane...??? But still the difference is huge...??? The pilots involved could have checked this out before doing the recurrency or not... Flight Safety is open to anybody and will answer these questions direct.
Later
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AvanGinkel,
I have done some research, in fact there was a special deal with the company's TX, AOC holder. According to European 2000 recruitment all new hires must be PIC qualified before joining. Evan though you are current on type, they will make you to go through the recurrent training. Thus details as follow;
1. Recurrent and initial training USD$ 9,000
(This is only for the use of FSI San Antonio Sim. This recurrent and initial training is not done by FSI but through TX, AOC holder. Thus there is no FSI creditation.)
2. Hotel USD$ 2,100 (San Marcos and San Antonio)
3. Car rental USD$ 1,250
These come to USD$ 12,350 exclude relocation cost to Malta from TX.
The Sim at FSI San Antonio is a class C Sim. A full PIC checkride can be proformed in that Sim (no.:303).
Edited to remove some irrelevant comments that cause thread drift.
I have done some research, in fact there was a special deal with the company's TX, AOC holder. According to European 2000 recruitment all new hires must be PIC qualified before joining. Evan though you are current on type, they will make you to go through the recurrent training. Thus details as follow;
1. Recurrent and initial training USD$ 9,000
(This is only for the use of FSI San Antonio Sim. This recurrent and initial training is not done by FSI but through TX, AOC holder. Thus there is no FSI creditation.)
2. Hotel USD$ 2,100 (San Marcos and San Antonio)
3. Car rental USD$ 1,250
These come to USD$ 12,350 exclude relocation cost to Malta from TX.
The Sim at FSI San Antonio is a class C Sim. A full PIC checkride can be proformed in that Sim (no.:303).
Edited to remove some irrelevant comments that cause thread drift.
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It looks like we are in for a long wait
still nothing in the Times of Malta ... as I said, it will be buried and the odd wrist slapped, or it's going to appear under a very small headline on page 5 
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Hostie,
Even within aviation circles here in Malta the story is still largely unknown and the people who have heard about it are only the PPRUNE regulars, so I doubt whether the Times got hold of it. Maybe if you post them a link to the topic they'll write a story!
Even within aviation circles here in Malta the story is still largely unknown and the people who have heard about it are only the PPRUNE regulars, so I doubt whether the Times got hold of it. Maybe if you post them a link to the topic they'll write a story!
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don't hold your breath
Times of Malta were made aware of this story on 6th October 2003.
I therefore refer you to my previous comment, and if I were to take a wager, it would be that this gets buried.
unless of course
this story in todays edition counts
I therefore refer you to my previous comment, and if I were to take a wager, it would be that this gets buried.
unless of course
this story in todays edition counts
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apparently true
it appears that the old man micallef is infact former police. all the pilots have been sued in the malta court for damages - and they were not notified of the case. now they must pay european 2000 airlines for the little flying that they did - which THEY were supposed to be paid for doing!!!!
ray micallef is supposedly on his way to london, where a surprise will meet him. watch your back mr.ray. your former boys (pilots) are out to get you, and they are quite upset. one of them mentioned using you for baseball batting practice!!!
ray micallef is supposedly on his way to london, where a surprise will meet him. watch your back mr.ray. your former boys (pilots) are out to get you, and they are quite upset. one of them mentioned using you for baseball batting practice!!!