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Armed Pilot Program National Press Protest, August 26.
Airline Pilots Security Alliance, CAPA, APA, SWAPA
National Media Event – Tuesday Morning, August 26, 2003
Do you want to fix the Federal Flight Deck Officer Program? Do you want to send the message that you’re tired of being treated like children by the government? Do you want to put a spotlight on all the things TSA is doing to thwart arming pilots while it makes you take off your shoes so you can’t get control of an airplane…five minutes before you get control of an airplane? Do you want to be part of the solution? You are invited to participate in the largest, most aggressive, coordinated activity yet to finally give you the tools to protect your passengers! And we need your help!
In light of recent press reports of new threats to airliners and the TSA’s potential security draw downs due to cost overruns, the Airline Pilots Security Alliance, the Coalition of Airline Pilots, the Allied Pilots Association, members of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association and other groups, as well as a large contingent of your fellow pilots, and interested political leaders, will hold simultaneous national press conferences on August 26 to protest the hamstringing of the Federal Flight Deck Officer program.
On August 26, at 1100 EDT (1000 CDT, 0900 MDT, 0800 PDT) we will conduct simultaneous press conferences at the airports below, to deliver a unified message, illustrating that professional pilots and pilot unions throughout the United States want the FFDO program fixed. At the same time, we are coordinating a campaign to send our opinion to Washington and galvanize the industry and the public! We intend to use “Shock and Awe” to overwhelm those who would seek to thwart the FFDO program!
We will to need to draw a large contingent of pilots and concerned public to these events in order to be heard!
Please plan to come to one of the following airports to be a part of the solution on Tuesday, August 26. The local team leaders are also listed below:
11:00 am (EDT)
Miami International Airport -- Rob Sproc, [email protected]
A Concourse Auditorium (upstairs) Room 1
11:00 am (EDT)
Atlanta Airport Hilton – Randy Safewright,[email protected]
Virginia Avenue, Ogeechee Conference Room
11:00 am (EDT)
Reagan International Airport -- Bob Lambert, [email protected], Jon Safley, [email protected]
North Terrace, Upper Level
11:00 am (EDT)
Senator Jim Bunning & Airline Pilots
Northern Kentucky/Cincinnati International Airport -- Leon Laylagian, [email protected]
Terminal 1, Room 2054, 2nd Level
10:00 am (CDT)
Chicago O’Hare International Airport
SPECIFIC LOCATION NOT CONFIRMED, CHECK WWW.SECURE-SKIES.ORG BEFORE DEPARTING
8:00 am (PDT)
Los Angeles International Airport - Terminal 4 - Denny Breslin, [email protected]
American Airlines terminal on the upper/departure level
10:00 am (Hawaiian Local Time)
Inter-Island Terminal -- Linda Pauwels, [email protected]
If you can’t come, letters, calls and visits to Congress, and to President Bush, over the next week, saying it is time to remove roadblocks such as psychological screening, background checks, lockboxes and cargo pilot restrictions, and get pilots armed and credentialed as are other federal officers, would be a great help! The FFDO program and our future treatment by the TSA are in our hands. Thus far, we achieved an armed pilot program when most initially said it was impossible. It is now time for us to fix this mess! I am confident we will again be successful!
National Media Event – Tuesday Morning, August 26, 2003
Do you want to fix the Federal Flight Deck Officer Program? Do you want to send the message that you’re tired of being treated like children by the government? Do you want to put a spotlight on all the things TSA is doing to thwart arming pilots while it makes you take off your shoes so you can’t get control of an airplane…five minutes before you get control of an airplane? Do you want to be part of the solution? You are invited to participate in the largest, most aggressive, coordinated activity yet to finally give you the tools to protect your passengers! And we need your help!
In light of recent press reports of new threats to airliners and the TSA’s potential security draw downs due to cost overruns, the Airline Pilots Security Alliance, the Coalition of Airline Pilots, the Allied Pilots Association, members of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association and other groups, as well as a large contingent of your fellow pilots, and interested political leaders, will hold simultaneous national press conferences on August 26 to protest the hamstringing of the Federal Flight Deck Officer program.
On August 26, at 1100 EDT (1000 CDT, 0900 MDT, 0800 PDT) we will conduct simultaneous press conferences at the airports below, to deliver a unified message, illustrating that professional pilots and pilot unions throughout the United States want the FFDO program fixed. At the same time, we are coordinating a campaign to send our opinion to Washington and galvanize the industry and the public! We intend to use “Shock and Awe” to overwhelm those who would seek to thwart the FFDO program!
We will to need to draw a large contingent of pilots and concerned public to these events in order to be heard!
Please plan to come to one of the following airports to be a part of the solution on Tuesday, August 26. The local team leaders are also listed below:
11:00 am (EDT)
Miami International Airport -- Rob Sproc, [email protected]
A Concourse Auditorium (upstairs) Room 1
11:00 am (EDT)
Atlanta Airport Hilton – Randy Safewright,[email protected]
Virginia Avenue, Ogeechee Conference Room
11:00 am (EDT)
Reagan International Airport -- Bob Lambert, [email protected], Jon Safley, [email protected]
North Terrace, Upper Level
11:00 am (EDT)
Senator Jim Bunning & Airline Pilots
Northern Kentucky/Cincinnati International Airport -- Leon Laylagian, [email protected]
Terminal 1, Room 2054, 2nd Level
10:00 am (CDT)
Chicago O’Hare International Airport
SPECIFIC LOCATION NOT CONFIRMED, CHECK WWW.SECURE-SKIES.ORG BEFORE DEPARTING
8:00 am (PDT)
Los Angeles International Airport - Terminal 4 - Denny Breslin, [email protected]
American Airlines terminal on the upper/departure level
10:00 am (Hawaiian Local Time)
Inter-Island Terminal -- Linda Pauwels, [email protected]
If you can’t come, letters, calls and visits to Congress, and to President Bush, over the next week, saying it is time to remove roadblocks such as psychological screening, background checks, lockboxes and cargo pilot restrictions, and get pilots armed and credentialed as are other federal officers, would be a great help! The FFDO program and our future treatment by the TSA are in our hands. Thus far, we achieved an armed pilot program when most initially said it was impossible. It is now time for us to fix this mess! I am confident we will again be successful!
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What the hell is that ?? Armed pilots??
As pacifist I dont agree to that. I know a lot of cowboys and so
called heroes want to play with it until one pilot shoots the other?
because they cannot handle themselves? NO WAY no weappons
into the cockpit !!
I will read very interested all the replies who follows. Protest yes
that aircrews are not longer treated as children but weappons
out of the cockpit !!! We have to handle the aircrafts and not
participate in a battle in the sky.
NG
As pacifist I dont agree to that. I know a lot of cowboys and so
called heroes want to play with it until one pilot shoots the other?
because they cannot handle themselves? NO WAY no weappons
into the cockpit !!
I will read very interested all the replies who follows. Protest yes
that aircrews are not longer treated as children but weappons
out of the cockpit !!! We have to handle the aircrafts and not
participate in a battle in the sky.
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I am happy to see that some are taking this problem in hand.
We have all been harrassed at JFK an other places, treated like criminals by these Ex-Burger King types.
How many times have we all been through the harrasment, taking off belts, shoes an yelled at because we did not remove these prior to the metal detector.
I have even complained to the TSA directly an was told that it was procedure.
What, procedure to treat pilots like criminals?
Good news.
We have all been harrassed at JFK an other places, treated like criminals by these Ex-Burger King types.
How many times have we all been through the harrasment, taking off belts, shoes an yelled at because we did not remove these prior to the metal detector.
I have even complained to the TSA directly an was told that it was procedure.
What, procedure to treat pilots like criminals?
Good news.
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"High Calibre" pilots?!
Pilots press for faster arms training
Tuesday, August 26, 2003 Posted: 12:17 PM EDT (1617 GMT)
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Airline pilots are stepping up their campaign to pressure the Bush administration to train more commercial pilots to carry guns in the cockpit.
Fewer than 200 pilots have been deputized to carry weapons since November, when Congress ordered the government to start a program for pilots who want to be armed when they fly.
Capt. Bob Lambert, president of the Airline Pilots' Security Alliance, called the figure outrageous.
"Let's get the pilots armed in enough quantities to serve as an adequate deterrent," said Lambert, whose grass-roots organization includes pilots from all the major U.S. airlines.
The pilots are planning news conferences Tuesday at airports in Miami, Washington, Atlanta, Los Angeles and Cincinnati to urge the Transportation Security Administration to pick up the pace of training.
Pilots lobbied Congress hard last year, arguing that guns would allow them to supplement air marshals, who cover only a small percentage of the 35,000 daily flights in the United States. The TSA, seeking to address a nearly $1 billion budget shortfall, froze air marshal hiring in May.
The agency had opposed arming pilots, believing tighter airport security, bulletproof cockpit doors and more vigilant passengers made it unnecessary. Critics also said adding guns to airplanes was inherently dangerous.
But after it became obvious that Congress would support the program, TSA chief James Loy reluctantly went along with it. Pilots say the agency now is dragging its feet because it didn't want the program in the first place.
TSA spokesman Brian Turmail rejected that claim. He said the agency moved quickly to create a training program and application process for pilots, and now that those elements are established, the pace of training will pick up.
Full classes are booked through the end of September, he said, adding that the number of pilots in each class is kept secret for security reasons.
Classes conducted weekly
But Lambert said at the current rate of training about 50 pilots a week, it will take 15 years to arm the estimated 40,000 pilots who want to carry guns.
Pilots who volunteer for the program take a week of classes, weapons instruction and hand-to-hand combat drills at a federal law enforcement training center. Background checks and psychological testing also are conducted.
The first 44 pilots to complete the program were designated "flight deck officers" on April 19 and began flying with weapons. The second class finished in July, and now classes are conducted weekly.
An upcoming move to a training center in Artesia, New Mexico, from Glynco, Georgia, will allow the agency to train more pilots, Turmail said.
Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Kentucky, will join pilots at Cincinnati-Northern Kentucky International Airport and urge Congress to let cargo pilots carry guns. They were dropped from the original legislation authorizing the program.
Former Rep. Bob Barr, R-Georgia, will speak in support of the pilots at Atlanta Hartsfield International Airport.
"The government is throwing roadblocks in the way of fulfilling what was a very clear congressional mandate," Barr said. "If the White House would simply make a clear statement that this must be done, it dramatically improves the chances of it happening."
House aviation subcommittee Chairman John Mica, R-Florida, wants the TSA to let the private sector run the program and to drop the psychological testing. Lambert said the testing deters some pilots from signing up for the program.
Turmail said testing is necessary to make sure pilots are psychologically able to use lethal force and then fly a plane.
Tuesday, August 26, 2003 Posted: 12:17 PM EDT (1617 GMT)
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Airline pilots are stepping up their campaign to pressure the Bush administration to train more commercial pilots to carry guns in the cockpit.
Fewer than 200 pilots have been deputized to carry weapons since November, when Congress ordered the government to start a program for pilots who want to be armed when they fly.
Capt. Bob Lambert, president of the Airline Pilots' Security Alliance, called the figure outrageous.
"Let's get the pilots armed in enough quantities to serve as an adequate deterrent," said Lambert, whose grass-roots organization includes pilots from all the major U.S. airlines.
The pilots are planning news conferences Tuesday at airports in Miami, Washington, Atlanta, Los Angeles and Cincinnati to urge the Transportation Security Administration to pick up the pace of training.
Pilots lobbied Congress hard last year, arguing that guns would allow them to supplement air marshals, who cover only a small percentage of the 35,000 daily flights in the United States. The TSA, seeking to address a nearly $1 billion budget shortfall, froze air marshal hiring in May.
The agency had opposed arming pilots, believing tighter airport security, bulletproof cockpit doors and more vigilant passengers made it unnecessary. Critics also said adding guns to airplanes was inherently dangerous.
But after it became obvious that Congress would support the program, TSA chief James Loy reluctantly went along with it. Pilots say the agency now is dragging its feet because it didn't want the program in the first place.
TSA spokesman Brian Turmail rejected that claim. He said the agency moved quickly to create a training program and application process for pilots, and now that those elements are established, the pace of training will pick up.
Full classes are booked through the end of September, he said, adding that the number of pilots in each class is kept secret for security reasons.
Classes conducted weekly
But Lambert said at the current rate of training about 50 pilots a week, it will take 15 years to arm the estimated 40,000 pilots who want to carry guns.
Pilots who volunteer for the program take a week of classes, weapons instruction and hand-to-hand combat drills at a federal law enforcement training center. Background checks and psychological testing also are conducted.
The first 44 pilots to complete the program were designated "flight deck officers" on April 19 and began flying with weapons. The second class finished in July, and now classes are conducted weekly.
An upcoming move to a training center in Artesia, New Mexico, from Glynco, Georgia, will allow the agency to train more pilots, Turmail said.
Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Kentucky, will join pilots at Cincinnati-Northern Kentucky International Airport and urge Congress to let cargo pilots carry guns. They were dropped from the original legislation authorizing the program.
Former Rep. Bob Barr, R-Georgia, will speak in support of the pilots at Atlanta Hartsfield International Airport.
"The government is throwing roadblocks in the way of fulfilling what was a very clear congressional mandate," Barr said. "If the White House would simply make a clear statement that this must be done, it dramatically improves the chances of it happening."
House aviation subcommittee Chairman John Mica, R-Florida, wants the TSA to let the private sector run the program and to drop the psychological testing. Lambert said the testing deters some pilots from signing up for the program.
Turmail said testing is necessary to make sure pilots are psychologically able to use lethal force and then fly a plane.
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As pacifist I dont agree to that. I know a lot of cowboys and so called heroes want to play with it until one pilot shoots the other? because they cannot handle themselves? NO WAY no weappons into the cockpit !!
Guess what? Pilots are already armed in the US. Not too many yet, but they are being trained.
I'd sure love to have my family in the back of a pacifist's airplane when the bad guys breach the cockpit!
It's far better to die (and have a bunch of other people die as well) for YOUR beliefs than to stand ground and react responsibly to the situation......... unbelievable.
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<<Protest yes
that aircrews are not longer treated as children but weappons
out of the cockpit !!! We have to handle the aircrafts and not
participate in a battle in the sky.>>
Here lies the death of logic. When the terrorists do manage to burst through to the cockpit when the door has been opened, or bang their way in, I assume the pilots will hold their hands up in the air and say "look! We're unarmed (and proud of it)! We don't DO violence on the Flight Deck! Please go sit down like good little Al Quaida people!" Believe me, at that stage, you would be better having a .38 revolver pointing rearwards rather than a 'Ban the Bomb' sign (and nothing else). You see, once they are there, and you don't have a gun, you are going to die immediately with a bottle slashed throat, then they will sacrifice all your passengers and no doubt as many people on the ground as they can kill. So what exactly has anybody to lose by having armed pilots at the controls? What have the passengers to gain by armed pilots? The possibility of survival.
<<Protest yes
that aircrews are not longer treated as children but weappons
out of the cockpit !!! We have to handle the aircrafts and not
participate in a battle in the sky.>>
Here lies the death of logic. When the terrorists do manage to burst through to the cockpit when the door has been opened, or bang their way in, I assume the pilots will hold their hands up in the air and say "look! We're unarmed (and proud of it)! We don't DO violence on the Flight Deck! Please go sit down like good little Al Quaida people!" Believe me, at that stage, you would be better having a .38 revolver pointing rearwards rather than a 'Ban the Bomb' sign (and nothing else). You see, once they are there, and you don't have a gun, you are going to die immediately with a bottle slashed throat, then they will sacrifice all your passengers and no doubt as many people on the ground as they can kill. So what exactly has anybody to lose by having armed pilots at the controls? What have the passengers to gain by armed pilots? The possibility of survival.
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If you really must have guns on board...
A suggestion from a fare paying member of the public... Increase the price of a ticket by $10 or $20 or whatever amount necessary and hire professonally trained Air Marshalls for each flight...
I know that is not a perfect solution but it is a deterrent..
or better still...use the additional $$$ raised to improve security on the ground... and even better still....start to ask the question...why do we have the threat in the first place..If we ask that question, maybe we should work on that..
Maybe I am naive...but it might help..If we understand why we have the problem in the first place..
A suggestion from a fare paying member of the public... Increase the price of a ticket by $10 or $20 or whatever amount necessary and hire professonally trained Air Marshalls for each flight...
I know that is not a perfect solution but it is a deterrent..
or better still...use the additional $$$ raised to improve security on the ground... and even better still....start to ask the question...why do we have the threat in the first place..If we ask that question, maybe we should work on that..
Maybe I am naive...but it might help..If we understand why we have the problem in the first place..
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<<saying it is time to remove roadblocks such as psychological screening>>
Well, I hope they are screened to make sure they would be willing to kill someone...otherwise the presence of the gun will just make the situation worse.
Plus I hope there is continued re-validation of the skills learnt during the course, otherwise it will surely be a waste of time.
Well, I hope they are screened to make sure they would be willing to kill someone...otherwise the presence of the gun will just make the situation worse.
Plus I hope there is continued re-validation of the skills learnt during the course, otherwise it will surely be a waste of time.
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...the usual clash of cultures...
"outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns", as seen on US Bumper stickers. A certain logic does pertain to the quote, but in a society where guns are seldom, not to say never seen, this doesn't really hold up.
In lieu of 9/11 the perception of most travellers has changed so far, as to be sensitive to hijack threats. In conjunction with hightened ground security, which should be the main focus, I think that guns should be kept as far away from civil aircraft as possible.
On the point of security harassment of aircrews I do have to agree!!
In lieu of 9/11 the perception of most travellers has changed so far, as to be sensitive to hijack threats. In conjunction with hightened ground security, which should be the main focus, I think that guns should be kept as far away from civil aircraft as possible.
On the point of security harassment of aircrews I do have to agree!!
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Love that new US flight announcement.
I hope some airlines will adopt and publish a policy of not having any guns of any kind anywhere on the plane. They would certainly get my business ahead of those adopting the "wild west cowboy" approach to "safety" in the air.
I hope some airlines will adopt and publish a policy of not having any guns of any kind anywhere on the plane. They would certainly get my business ahead of those adopting the "wild west cowboy" approach to "safety" in the air.
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Doesn't look like this idea has the great momentum that was earlier claimed.
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Few pilots sign up to carry guns
March 13, 2004
BY LESLIE MILLER
WASHINGTON -- Commercial pilots say only a few of their colleagues are signing up to carry guns in the cockpit because the Bush administration has made it harder than necessary to participate.
The Transportation Security Administration initially opposed the program, then reluctantly endorsed it when it was clear Congress was behind it.
The Airline Pilots Security Alliance, a group formed by pilots to lobby for guns in the cockpit, says the TSA's stance has led the agency to impose unnecessary standards, chief among them a 14-page psychological evaluation.
Dean Roberts, a member of the alliance, is a former special agent with the Drug Enforcement Agency. He questions the need for the test, noting psychological and physical ability evaluations with Federal Aviation Administration doctors are performed every six months for captains and once a year for first officers.
''I never filled out a 14-page application to be a DEA agent,'' Roberts said. ''We have guys who've flown the space shuttle, and that's not good enough for TSA.''
TSA spokesman Mark Hatfield said the testing is necessary to ensure safety.
''It's a very demanding assignment that requires an individual to make a life-or-death decision and then turn around and fly an airplane,'' Hatfield said.
Four percent of the pilots flunked the test because they're not considered suitable, he said. Reasons for disqualification include a history of disobeying safety regulations, domestic violence and alcoholism.
When Congress was considering whether to allow guns in the cockpit, the Airline Pilots Security Alliance conducted polls and estimated about half the 115,000 commercial pilots would participate. But after 16 months, they estimate only 1,500 pilots have been certified.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/terro...s-pilot13.html
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Few pilots sign up to carry guns
March 13, 2004
BY LESLIE MILLER
WASHINGTON -- Commercial pilots say only a few of their colleagues are signing up to carry guns in the cockpit because the Bush administration has made it harder than necessary to participate.
The Transportation Security Administration initially opposed the program, then reluctantly endorsed it when it was clear Congress was behind it.
The Airline Pilots Security Alliance, a group formed by pilots to lobby for guns in the cockpit, says the TSA's stance has led the agency to impose unnecessary standards, chief among them a 14-page psychological evaluation.
Dean Roberts, a member of the alliance, is a former special agent with the Drug Enforcement Agency. He questions the need for the test, noting psychological and physical ability evaluations with Federal Aviation Administration doctors are performed every six months for captains and once a year for first officers.
''I never filled out a 14-page application to be a DEA agent,'' Roberts said. ''We have guys who've flown the space shuttle, and that's not good enough for TSA.''
TSA spokesman Mark Hatfield said the testing is necessary to ensure safety.
''It's a very demanding assignment that requires an individual to make a life-or-death decision and then turn around and fly an airplane,'' Hatfield said.
Four percent of the pilots flunked the test because they're not considered suitable, he said. Reasons for disqualification include a history of disobeying safety regulations, domestic violence and alcoholism.
When Congress was considering whether to allow guns in the cockpit, the Airline Pilots Security Alliance conducted polls and estimated about half the 115,000 commercial pilots would participate. But after 16 months, they estimate only 1,500 pilots have been certified.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/terro...s-pilot13.html
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But since many aspiring aerial rambos are discovering that 6 months requalification sorties are required at their own expense (and on their days off), the program has lost a lot of steam. Carriers are neither arranging nor reimbursing participants' transportation, lodging and meal expenses for such "recurrent training," nor for the initial one week course.
Add to that the overall weapon's usage restrictions and the very cumbersome requirements of carriage and control to the cockpit, in the cockpit and from the cockpit, (in addition to flying duties) and it makes the entire program impractical reality for most but a few die hard gun fanatics.
Add to that the overall weapon's usage restrictions and the very cumbersome requirements of carriage and control to the cockpit, in the cockpit and from the cockpit, (in addition to flying duties) and it makes the entire program impractical reality for most but a few die hard gun fanatics.
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In the crazy world of legally armed pilots......do you still have your nail clippers and reading glasses screwdriver [2 inches long] confiscated at the security gate?
"Ceratinly Captain, your S&W .500 is fine, but I can't let that nail file through here, policy you know."
Why don't we recruit a few German Sheperds as well, that will certainly keep folk away from the forward dunnies....and they slober less than a few folk I know as well.
"Ceratinly Captain, your S&W .500 is fine, but I can't let that nail file through here, policy you know."
Why don't we recruit a few German Sheperds as well, that will certainly keep folk away from the forward dunnies....and they slober less than a few folk I know as well.
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Sure, get some guns into the cockpit, so terrorists don´t have to trouble themselves smuggling them onto the AC..
So here we go, on the one side we have the standard industrialized-world pilot, a little overweight, not too much sleep, buckled to his seat facing his instruments and the last time he went jogging was two days prior his medical, but(!) he is armed!
And there we have our terrorist, drilled in the desert, fanatic, had his close combat training, standing (!) upright (!) behind (!) you..
(remember the last time, you turned around to grab something heavy out of the Nav Kit?)
Guns in the cockpit? Only with weekly training in shooting, martial arts and running 10 km every morning .. Have fun!
So here we go, on the one side we have the standard industrialized-world pilot, a little overweight, not too much sleep, buckled to his seat facing his instruments and the last time he went jogging was two days prior his medical, but(!) he is armed!
And there we have our terrorist, drilled in the desert, fanatic, had his close combat training, standing (!) upright (!) behind (!) you..
(remember the last time, you turned around to grab something heavy out of the Nav Kit?)
Guns in the cockpit? Only with weekly training in shooting, martial arts and running 10 km every morning .. Have fun!
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Well there you go. Another pathetic piece of Bush Administration window dressing falls flat on its arse because guess what, IT WAS A BAD IDEA.
Why are firearms the answer to all the worlds problems? Guys, just because its part of your Constitution it doesn't make it apropriate.
Because of US Federal demands we now sit locked behind Kevlar armoured doors, surrounded by unfathomable, cumbersome legislation. Thats if we ever get airborne after a dozen US Federal departments have trawled through passenger manifests looking for someone from the middle east called 'Hussein'.
You dont need a gun on the flight deck.
And for the sake of the rest of us, come November please vote for the other guy.
Why are firearms the answer to all the worlds problems? Guys, just because its part of your Constitution it doesn't make it apropriate.
Because of US Federal demands we now sit locked behind Kevlar armoured doors, surrounded by unfathomable, cumbersome legislation. Thats if we ever get airborne after a dozen US Federal departments have trawled through passenger manifests looking for someone from the middle east called 'Hussein'.
You dont need a gun on the flight deck.
And for the sake of the rest of us, come November please vote for the other guy.
