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PPRuNeUser469990 30th July 2024 16:39

Bell 505 down in Ireland
 
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2...-co-westmeath/

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bnt 30th July 2024 17:17

Irish Times saying there are casualties, no more details yet other than that the building is a piggery.

Bob Bevan 30th July 2024 17:44

Registration Showing
 
I'm not sure it's a great idea to display an image showing the registration when we don't even know if next of kin have been notified.

Lunar 30th July 2024 18:00


Originally Posted by albatross (Post 11706490)
Hope everyone is Ok.

Big question is “How the heck did it end up parked there and upside down to boot?”

What a thoughtless and terrible thing to write.

DogTailRed2 30th July 2024 18:09


Originally Posted by Bob Bevan (Post 11706523)
I'm not sure it's a great idea to display an image showing the registration when we don't even know if next of kin have been notified.

The image is from what appears to be a news site if you click the link.

bnt 30th July 2024 19:05

Both occupants were killed in the crash. The flight was out of Weston, where there is a helicopter pilot training school.

PPRuNeUser469990 30th July 2024 20:41

the reg lookup i am seeing says it's a Bell 505

the reg can be found on twitter

Cyclic Hotline 30th July 2024 20:50

You are correct. I entered the wrong registration.

Liffy 1M 31st July 2024 10:14

One of those on board was a non-Irish national and news reports indicate that the police here are working through Interpol to try amd contact his next-of-kin.

JulieAndrews 31st July 2024 10:40

Further info out that they had been reported by a local farmer for chasing cattle..........

Hughes500 31st July 2024 10:42


Originally Posted by JulieAndrews (Post 11707083)
Further info out that they had been reported by a local farmer for chasing cattle..........

why would one want to chase cattle ? Not in Oz !

martinebrangan 31st July 2024 14:57


Originally Posted by JulieAndrews (Post 11707083)
Further info out that they had been reported by a local farmer for chasing cattle..........

Hardly likely, certainly not deliberating “chasing” cows, there may have been cattle in a field, it’s a big grass fed cattle growing region. Instructor may have been showing student how to get familiar with hazards, the cows might have run a bit with noise of helicopter in vicinity.

DroneDog 31st July 2024 17:01

I read an alleged eyewitness report that it was flying low level and straight when the engine just seemed to quit, "it dropped like a stone," and "to have bounced on initial impact." I assume it hit the roof and bounced on it, according to this account.

Teetering_Head 31st July 2024 17:38

To put all the silly eyewitness reports to bed, look at the flight log on FlightRadar. It starts of conducting multiple circuits at an airfield.
It departs the airfield and between 1500-1800ft on multiple occasions it has a high RoD, recovers and climbs back up to altitude.
Looks like circuits followed by Autorotation training, perhaps practise engine failure go resulted in the touch drills being the real thing

DroneDog 31st July 2024 19:29


Originally Posted by Teetering_Head (Post 11707437)
To put all the silly eyewitness reports to bed, look at the flight log on FlightRadar. It starts of conducting multiple circuits at an airfield.
It departs the airfield and between 1500-1800ft on multiple occasions it has a high RoD, recovers and climbs back up to altitude.
Looks like circuits followed by Autorotation training, perhaps practise engine failure go resulted in the touch drills being the real thing

Practicing autorotations does tie in with that eyewitness account, engine noise drops, and heli rapidly losing altitude.

mini 31st July 2024 21:15


Originally Posted by DroneDog (Post 11707409)
I read an alleged eyewitness report that it was flying low level and straight when the engine just seemed to quit, "it dropped like a stone," and "to have bounced on initial impact." I assume it hit the roof and bounced on it, according to this account.

If you look at the pics, the skids are flattened and there's sods of grass and muck embedded in them, suggests that it did hit terra firma before its final resting place.

RIP to both guys.

Fun_police 31st July 2024 23:13

Sure does…it must have hit pretty hard to get grass above the cross tube…
poor guys…
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Liffy 1M 1st August 2024 09:37

Both occupants publicly named now: https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...067113997.html

JulieAndrews 1st August 2024 13:52


Originally Posted by Hughes500 (Post 11707085)
why would one want to chase cattle ? Not in Oz !

silly eyewitness report from the farmer of the cattle - either 'larking about' or repeated use of his field for ccts/eng offs. landed on shed after bouncing

[email protected] 1st August 2024 14:17

Is the 505 a twistgrip throttle on the collective like the 206?


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