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deeceethree 19th March 2025 09:14


Originally Posted by Hughes500 (Post 11849984)
Two's when you realise who the driver of the 350 was you might have a better understanding of the crash and the physiology of that particular person. Fishwick not of that same breed.

I think all that 'Two's in' highlighting is that this particular former British and World champion rally driver was one of those types who was comfortable with professionally operating rally cars at the upper end of the risk spectrum, and was also wealthy enough to own and operate a helicopter from his home - possible factors for an accident.

Unfortunately, this same person had become very cavalier with the licensing requirements of operating his helicopter. The investigation uncovered multiple instances of licensing contravention, and at the time of the accident neither his flying licence or type rating were vaild, further confirmation of a willingness to accept unnecessary risk. Had any of his three passengers survived the accident, insurers of the pilot and machine would very likely have had grounds to refuse to cover any of the costs to the survivors.

In summary, I believe that 'Two's in' was merely providing an example of a wealthy risk-taker's attitude to operating a helicopter in an unnecessary manner, where the line between life and death was quickly and tragically crossed. He wasn't necessarily comparing him to Fishwick.

SilsoeSid 19th March 2025 12:37

Then there’s also..

https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aero...b-8-march-2011

Who lived by the philosophy of 'Better to live a day like a tiger than life as a mouse'.

Nescafe 19th March 2025 22:06


Who lived by the philosophy of 'Better to live a day like a tiger than life as a mouse'.
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Lots of people do, but not for very long.

Squeak squeak.

Tayters 19th March 2025 23:26


Originally Posted by Nescafe (Post 11850365)

Lots of people do, but not for very long.

Squeak squeak.

Or as Rimmer from Red Dwarf noted, have you ever seen a wormskin rug?

onehunglow 20th March 2025 10:38

I like him !

ShyTorque 20th March 2025 17:37

Steve Hislop, another high profile chap, as World Superbike Champion, did rather less well as a heli pilot. He came to grief in G-OUEL in 2003.

SilsoeSid 20th March 2025 21:00

The next category is the social media aviator… coming from a south coast airfield near to you soon.
Filming and posting everything, with their following hanging on every word and action, although the state of dress appears to draw the most comments. Funny how the wearing of gloves often crops up, yet no-one asks where the fuel test samples end up !
Helps if daddy has the money and aviation contacts to support their offspring’s adventures :rolleyes:

VM325 20th March 2025 22:34

Standby for another YouTuber going rotary.
For those that don't know him, Mat Armstrong is big on YouTube for rebuilding crashed supercars...

From 1 minute in...


SilsoeSid 30th March 2025 21:39

Now we know why pilots have access to a fully stocked aircrew rations locker and exempt the one sausage at breakfast rule… another pie anyone :ok:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18p...ibextid=wwXIfr

ShyTorque 31st March 2025 12:39

Where does he get these half truths? I’ve never weighed as much as 13 stone. Never stopped me flying solo from 1979 onwards.

rugmuncher 31st March 2025 14:43

He does spend a bit of time re-building cars that HE has crashed.
Wishing him all the best in hoping to become a pilot.

212man 31st March 2025 20:26


Originally Posted by SilsoeSid (Post 11857587)
Now we know why pilots have access to a fully stocked aircrew rations locker and exempt the one sausage at breakfast rule… another pie anyone :ok:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18p...ibextid=wwXIfr

one or two bacon grills there for sure!

Winnie 31st March 2025 20:40


Originally Posted by SilsoeSid (Post 11850927)
The next category is the social media aviator… coming from a south coast airfield near to you soon.
Filming and posting everything, with their following hanging on every word and action, although the state of dress appears to draw the most comments. Funny how the wearing of gloves often crops up, yet no-one asks where the fuel test samples end up !
Helps if daddy has the money and aviation contacts to support their offspring’s adventures :rolleyes:

I don't mind her videos, but its obvious Daddy has monies... I wish I had access to helicopters like that when I was coming of flying age... Now that I DO have access to 412 and 206's on a daily basis, and an Enstrom 28F whenever I want (to teach..) I don't feel like flogging the air for fun anymore...

paco 1st April 2025 06:24

Hey Winnie, what are you up to these days? Mischief, I hope..... :)

The Nr Fairy 1st April 2025 10:21

@ ShyTorque - R22 has minimum 130lbs / 9.25st / 59kg solo pilot weight, it's 150lbs / 10.75st / 68kg - for CG purposes, any less and CG would be too far aft with zero fuel.

B206 states minimum "crew" or "front seat" weight of 170lbs but not a minimum pilot weight.

I'm not surprised you've not flown anything with such a restriction, given your illustrious career.

ShyTorque 1st April 2025 12:21

TNrF,

Thanks - Your post illustrates my own. Dave F was spouting as if a 13 stone weight limit applied to all helicopters. Obviously it does not. Maybe in his limited experience..

Many aircraft have minimum weights for the pilots station/s in order to remain within the C of G limits, but it does vary.

FYI, Apart from my early career, nearly all my flying has been in twin engined helicopters and I've never operated a 206. However, I did instruct on the RAF Gazelle for a while, which did have a limit which meant I needed to carry a ballast weight in the left seat (it wouldn't these days...).

in 1988 I was asked to help start up a flying school using an R-22. At the request of the aircraft owner I flew one for 24 minutes, namely 12 minutes there, 12 minutes back. Never been in one again - never been that desperate to fly.. :p

rattle 1st April 2025 19:17

As a mere PPL(H), I know how much grief I'd get for having my left hand anywhere other than where it is supposed to be during a 2' hover. He's like Magnus Pyke waving his arms around.

Oh, and for a multi millionaire, you'd think he could buy a microphone!

treadigraph 2nd April 2025 08:44


Originally Posted by rattle (Post 11858864)
He's like Magnus Pyke waving his arms around.

:D

Magnus came to give a scientific presentation at my school in the 1970s and during one particularly intense period of gesticulation and striding around, he fell off the front of the stage, fortunately without damage to body or self-esteem! Perhaps Dave should take heed of that...

[email protected] 2nd April 2025 12:07


Originally Posted by rattle (Post 11858864)
As a mere PPL(H), I know how much grief I'd get for having my left hand anywhere other than where it is supposed to be during a 2' hover. He's like Magnus Pyke waving his arms around.

Oh, and for a multi millionaire, you'd think he could buy a microphone!

Nature seems to have provided him with a megaphone:)

heliboy999 19th April 2025 20:13

I see Dave has done a video on his expert opinion on what caused the Hudson B206L crash.

More golden insight from the alternative to the AAIB and NTSB.


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