Dave Fishwick Helicopter videos
 

I'm sure many of you have had the misfortune of stumbling across Dave Fishwick's (he of the Netflix movie "Bank of Dave" fame) video reels on social media, and hurriedly moved on. His manner is an acquired taste, to put it politely, but each to their own and we are in a free society. However, I've just seen this one and it really takes the biscuit: https://www.facebook.com/reel/798205...?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V (not sure how to find the original) and can't go without comment!

Given that most of his audience are likely the non-flying public, he is demonstrating two cardinal sins of helicopter safety:

• Walking close to the rotating tail rotor
• Walking in and out of the disc while the main rotor is winding down

(Not to mention he is talking gob****e about the horizontal stabiliser keeping the aircraft straight when the TR fails, but that's not a safety issue)

If he is a frequenter to this forum, I politely suggest you delete this video, or if any private owners here know him they might like to suggest the same to him.

Last time I saw one of his videos it was a Robbie, so unlikely to be a long-running series.......

Got a 206 now

Yells, "This'll kill ya!" and then he runs towards the rotating tail rotor.

I saw his Cat A takeoff demo video a few weeks ago, thought he was quite a character.

I'm a 'non-flyer' and I thought the horizontal stabiliser was to keep the airframe attitude level during forward flight, and it is the vertical tail fin which would become so important during a tail rotor problem, as it weathercocks the airframe.

Complacency
 

Irresponsible to say the least, running around anywhere near the tail rotor sends completely the wrong message. As mentioned before standing and moving around under a slowing main rotor also displays complacency at its worst.
He really needs to have more respect.

Such absolute horsefeathers.

Clearly has never had instruction on tail rotor problems, the B206 is one of the easiest to place carefully on the ground after a problem. None of this 60kt run-on garbage.

Bank of Dave was a good film and showed him to be a caring bloke. Perhaps he should stick with finance ?

NEO

Unfortunately he has taken to re-releasing videos every few weeks, no doubt to keep the content 'fresh'. It just represents another opportunity for the curling of toes.

I am not sure what his objective is, if I were to guess it's that he wants to share his love of flying. But the execution is horrible.

Can we crowdfund a rotor brake for him?

Cut him some slack, ive lost count of the number of people who watched his clips and have since developed an interest in flying. He's just a bloke doing a bit.

In general yes, but not for this particular video!

He lives on Whalley Road...

Ok, I just gotta know. What word is being censored here? I mean that's not even close to any trigger words I know. :eek:

sh8te is what's missing - a very North of England term:ok: replace the 8 with an i

a gob****e is someone who 'runs off at the mouth' in American parlance.

true, but can be also mean what’s coming out of their mouth too.

AKA Verbal diarrhea................

NEO

He posted one "Never been shown before on film!" of a 'rolling takeoff' in his 206.

perhaps informative (slightly) for the unwashed masses, but certainly nothing new.

Just one clarification of Gob****e from an English Dictionary

noun. , Chiefly Irish Slang: Vulgar. a mean and contemptible person, especially a braggart. a stupid and incompetent person.

If someone happens to mention his dangerous attitude or actions on his posts, his army of fans mobilse and let rip in his defence. Shame, from many sources he is supposed to be a genuinly lovely guy but he is pushing faslehoods and dangerous info which undermines saftey.

I hope the right attention he gets from 'real aviators’ in his post’s comments diverts him away from what seems an inevitable ending. However, as heliboy999 says, his army of fans and supporters will lead him to believe everything he says is correct and his mortality will see him right...

Of course I wish him safe and well, as I do everyone that takes to the skies, but how do you make a successful businessman open their eyes a bit more?

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556561464456

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Btw, his films are described as ‘true(ish)’ :rolleyes:

"The film gives a disclaimer at the start saying it is "true(ish)".
While the basic story and some of the locations are true (scenes were even filmed in Dave Fishwick's own home), much of the film is fictional."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Dave_(film)

"As with the first film, Bank of Dave 2 is billed as a true-ish story – meaning that once again it plays a little fast and loose with the truth."
https://www.radiotimes.com/movies/ba...ory-exclusive/

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I’m sure we all remember Mark Weir Rip
https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/445106-cumbria-helicopter-crash-tributes-condolences.html
https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aerospatiale-sa-341g-gazelle-ha-lfb-8-march-2011

As long as people who are successful in business (as he surely is) believe that translates to being great at flying helicopters - or worse still trying to show other people how to do it - there will be garbage on t'internet as they parade their money instead of their knowledge.

Anyone who has ever done an instructors course will see how poor his knowledge is, his lack of competent instructional technique and understand that poor instruction and negative demos are dangerous.

Stick to the day job Dave and let the professionals do the teaching.

When luck runs out and there's no skill to replace it, the resulting cliff-edge of competence often ends in tears.

Classic Dentist Killer set up.

I thought it was Doctors (Beechcraft Bonanza - Doctor killer) but your point is accurate

I was flamed by a few of his disciples for making a comment on one of his videos. I suggested that he should consider making a video highlighting the prime importance of Lookout……and perhaps watch it a few dozen times before he next takes to the air!

Thats my standard comment when I watch videos of aerobatics - they get flown on instruments!

Me too, I commented and was accused by his fan club of being jealous.

Aeros on instruments, sure you didn't train in the USN 212? Aeros were an exercise in instrument flying.

I have theory that the chances of dying in a helicopter, speedboat, or sportscar are directly proportional to wealth !
I prefer to be poor and safe

If you're driving or flying it yourself - most certainly.

A significant number of people who have been financially successful have character traits that may help in business but don't help keep you alive in a helicopter - Contrarianism, disregard for rules, increased risk appetite, overconfidence, aggression.

This can also apply to occasions where they are being flown by other people and they apply excessive pressure to get where they want to go.

It's not a new phenomenon sadly.

I'd like to hope that Mr Fishwick learns a few lessons before he learns the very hard way.

Well, that's a sweeping generalisation if ever I heard one.

Just a few of us prefer to think we are intelligent enough to be risk adverse and would quit like to..you know.. live.

Just because you have a few extra stripes on your lapels doesn't give the right to patronise. Or that's what my mum used to say.

Love this one...
“Why don’t you have windscreen wipers in a helicopter?"
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1734017087167116

Because someone had them removed Dave... :ok:
https://www.helx.co.uk/documents/G-D...les%20Spec.pdf
https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/search?...&source=g-info

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....74bd47e445.png
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....610bb7aa48.png
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a1619b3f0a.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....54a9bed89b.png

Sounds like thousands of helicopter pilots that have filtered into the industry in the past....Combat Helicopter pilots who flew their aircraft daily into environments that made those traits desirable and sought after.

Those traits do not transfer nicely to the ordinary and mundane business of civilian helicopter flying.

The hard part of this is deciding what risks are acceptable, what techniques are the most appropriate, and being able to select the best offerings.
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The key is to draw from credible, experienced, and knowledgeable sources and just because you seen a video on YouTube or somewhere else.....that in no way conveys the source is one you should latch onto for your guidance.

I tried to watch that linked video and lasted less ten seconds before shutting it off.

It was not only offensive to my hearing but the quality of presentation was grossly lacking. That his prattle and voice was akin to the screeching of fingernails on the slate Chalk Board in my Junior High School Typing Classroom....made it impossible for me to think anyone would make much of anything the guy had to say.

But then...mine is just one opinion amongst many.

Dear Dave, please visit Historic Helicopters and you will see every aircraft there has windscreen wipers fitted.

The only helicopter I have flown without wipers is the R22.

Some here might decry the CFS system but it does at least teach you how to convey information accurately and, in most cases, interestingly.:ok:

especially if you haven't been through a rigorous military selection and training system to teach you to use those characteristics for a purpose other than showing off your wealth.

I was expecting this person to be one of our Southern neighbours in America..

How this guy ever got a license is beyond me. He has no clue , his knowledge of helicopter principles of flight is pretty much zero

Guys I think you miss the point, his videos are not aimed at the likes of us they are aimed at Joe public.( give the average punter a trial lesson and speak about POF they are lost within 10 minutes ) Bit like telling most of you this is how to work out the ratios on a gas compression compressors for a power generation system ( my son's job, i have an idea of what he is talking about but when you see the maths !!!!!! )
Crab windscreen wipers, shows actually you only really fly IFR machines, here is list of machines that dont have wipers 47,407,505, 269, 369, 206, 22,44,66,280,480, most 350's most 341/342 's that weren't mil ones,

What's the worst thing that could possible happen?

https://assets.publishing.service.go...CBHL_02-09.pdf

Two's when you realise who the driver of the 350 was you might have a better understanding of the crash and the physiology of that particular person. Fishwick not of that same breed.

Physiology or psychology?

”If in doubt, flat out”.