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Savoia 13th August 2013 20:04

Shane: Great to see these shots from Hughesdon's garden party and, in particular, Peter Wilson.

Pete Wilson visited our family home numerous times in the company of my godfather and was a likeable man. Always friendly, engaging and highly accommodating of youngsters continually peppering him with questions about flying.

Together with my godfather, Peter was one of six pilots selected from the Army to learn to fly helicopters and their careers were closely intertwined with Peter joining my godfather at the Airborne Forces Experimental Establishment at RAF Beaulieu in 1946 and similarly, after the disbanding of the AFEE, moving on to the Aeroplane and Armament Experimental Establishment at Boscombe Down. Thereafter they both went on to join the Bristol Aeroplane Company where my godfather was project pilot on the Bristol Sycamore and in which programme Peter was also involved.

I should love to hear from anyone who knows a little about Peter's post-military career.

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The late Peter Wilson (1920-2010)

I should not like to disappoint my late godfather, having posted RAF and Navy Gazelles, by failing to present an Army offering and which, in this case, comes with the courtesy (again) of Martin Pole:

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Army SA341B Gazelle AH1 XW885 as seen at Knook Camp, Wiltshire in 1982 (Photo: Martin Pole)

Also present were; XZ313, XZ338, XX403, XZ333 and XZ318.

Shane101 13th August 2013 21:31

Thanks Sav
 
I knew you would be able to fill in the details.

Savoia 14th August 2013 19:43

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Brantly B-2B G-WASP as seen at Cranfield on 5th July 1987 (Photo: Stephen Duquemin)

This craft began life as G-ASXE being delivered to BEAS in 1964. From there she went to Freeman's of Bewdley Aviation in Stourport-on-Severn (1968 to 1976) after which she headed northwards to 'Wiggy's world' where she was registered to Sims Automatics of Glasgow. Sims then listed her under the name of Western Air Scotland and gave her a new registration .. G-WASP.

At the time of this photo she belonged jointly to William Evans and Maxwell Morris. She was finally returned to her land of origin in 2002.

gsa 15th August 2013 07:32


Brantly B-2B G-WASP as seen at Cranfield on 5th July 1987
When I was working at a hotel in Dollar, Central Scotland between leaving school and joining the AAC in 77 that landed in the garden and the guy went off with toolbox in hand to fix all the fruit machines.

vfr440 15th August 2013 10:07

Yes, I too remember him (I think) Was he Don McGilveray? And I've a mind he subsequently owned a J/R, which has been the subject of a post or two. I dunno, but Sav will!:O -VFR
PS could it have been G-WOSP??

fairchim 15th August 2013 14:56

In response to Monkeyboy post and CB helis, believe Annette, (mentioned in article) was in fact Roger Daltrey's cousin. I used to do occasional work for them back in the mid '80s at events such as GP and Derby

wiganairways 15th August 2013 15:40

G-WOSP
 
Hi Sav, Glad your back,
June 1985 and the 2 Jet Ranger's, (WOSP and BAKT), are now with Gleneagles ex Burnthill's, here G-WOSP doing pleasure flights in the Strathclyde Park, with Captain George Muir and his wife Maira, WOSP is now brown or should I say 'coffee' in colour for the Radio Clyde traffic reports sponsor Maxwell House, I think she still flys in Sweden as SE-JIP.

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in 'coffee' livery

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7381/8...86d5de17_z.jpg


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ericferret 15th August 2013 17:32

I seem to remember Don McGilveray being killed in the crash of G-CHIC a WASP helicopters 269C in North Wales 1980.

Savoia 15th August 2013 19:32

GSA: Your memory serves you well! See additional comments below from Wiganairways.

VFR: You may well remember G-BUZZ which was delivered to Western Air in 1978 by Mann's. I've posted a poor quality image (the only one available) of BUZZ from 1980 wearing a red and blue scheme (below).

Fairchim: Please feel free to post any photos from your time with CB.

Ciao Wiggy! Grazie mille!

Eric the Ferret: See comments below from Ahh de Havilland.


Originally Posted by wiganairways (Post 6538541)

Western Air seemed to have started in 1976 with a Brantly B2B, G-WASP (ex G-ASXE) registered to Sims Automatics, Glasgow. Sims is a supplier of friut machines, gaming machines, pool tables etc. (and are still around today) in 1977 G-WASP, as it had become, changed hands to Donald S. McGillivray, Elizabeth A. McGillivray and Walter Glen, (the partners), T/A Western Air (Scotland) Partners Ltd. from the same address as Sims.

WASP lasted from 2/77 to 11/81 and then joined by Jet Ranger G-BUZZ, (WASP, BUZZ), in 4/78, lasting until 8/82, next was G-WOSP Western Air (Scotland) Partners T/A WASP Helicopter Hire from 11/78 to 9/81 when it went to Burnthills Aviation Ltd. Don't know of anything after 1982 but I'll have a dig about, but would seem they quit the helicopter hire business about that time.


Originally Posted by Ahh de Havilland (Post 6541388)

Wasp was headed by Don McGillivray and operated G-CHIC Hughes 269 in addition to G-WASP, G-BUZZ & G-WOSP. Don also had a Campbell Cricket (G-AYHH) which was replaced by G-WASP.

G-CHIC was regn to Wasp on 31.7.79 but crashed soon after on 13.11.79 near Betws-y-Coed when it struck trees shortly after t/o. The pilot died from a fractured skull as he was not wearing a crash helmet. I am not sure but I think the pilot killed in G-CHIC was Don McGillivray, as the MD changed from Don to Elizabeth McGillivray.

Wasp were based to quote Flight in a small hangar behind an industrial estate in north Glasgow, and all the aircraft were regn to the same Glasgow address as Sims Automations so there may be a financial link.

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Agusta-Bell 206B JetRanger II G-BUZZ on location in Scotland during the filming of the movie 'Death Watch' in 1980

(My apologies for the atrocious quality of the above image). G-BUZZ was delivered by Alan Mann to Western Air in April of 1978. In November of the same year they took delivery of a new Bell-built 206 (probably from CSE) G-WOSP.

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Bell 206B JetRanger III G-WOSP at Glasgow c. 1980's (Photo: David Whitworth)

As mentioned above, what became WASP Helicopters seems to have begun as a helicopter supporting a business called 'Sims Automatics' which evidently distributed slot machines. This business appears to have been developed by Donald and Elizabeth McGillivray who then cultivated charter work for their helicopter (initially the Brantly B2 G-ASXE).

This charter business then began trading as Western Air (Scotland) Partners (from where the WASP acronym was derived) along with a Walter Glen.

Quite what happened to WASP I am not sure but one or more of their aircraft (as mentioned by Wiggy) went on to Burnthills.

If I remember correctly then Paco flew WOSP while she was with Burnthills.

Savoia 16th August 2013 19:21


Originally Posted by gsa (Post 7993570)

.. between leaving school and joining the AAC in 77 ..

This is a little before your time but .. in case you worked with Scouts:

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My godfather flew the prototype of the Scout (the P531):

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Saunders-Roe P531 prototype of the Scout which was developed from the Skeeter

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British Army Scout XR604 over a Kampong, Malaya in 1968 (Photo: Mike Edwards)

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2 Flight Army Air Corps in Seremban, Malaya, 1968. A regretfully incomplete list of those photographed includes: Sgt John Smith, Cpl Nigel Tindale, Cpl Graham Kennedy, Cpl Stu Read, Cpl Len Allison, Cpl Froggy Keep (Photo: Mike Edwards)

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A while back on this thread we saw a Navy 'Wasp' fitted with skids and no flotation gear .. well .. here's an Army Scout with flotation gear .. over Hong Kong!

The Scout was by all counts a study craft for I recall in the early 80's an incident at Wallop where a certain Bristow 47 took a 'liking' to a Scout by trying to land on top of it! The Scout flew again (IIRC) but the 47 was consigned to the scrap heap!

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British Army Alouette II during the AAC Golden Jubilee seen with an AAC pilot on 25th May 2007

I was initially flummoxed by the medal worn by the driver in this photo being reminded of the Hong Kong Service Medal (which also had a blue and yellow ribbon) but .. after closer inspection the lass's version depicted a circle of stars around the medal's circumference and which was definitely not the case with the HKSM. It turns out instead to be the 'Common Security and Defence Policy Service Medal' awarded for participation in Operation Althea in Bosnia and Herzegovina!

Ericferret: Did you work on the AAC Alo II's?

wiganairways 18th August 2013 07:27

Also from the BBC Four 'Britain on Film' programme, G-ASEH, Brantly B-2A flying out of the 'London Heliport on a self drive hire', also Gregory Air Taxi service with a PA23.

Wiggy


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Savoia 18th August 2013 19:23

Wiggy! Many thanks for these 'screen shots' along with those contributed to the Ferranti thread! :ok:

I think this is the first mentioning of G-ASEH on 'Nostalgia' so this is a great find. Great too to see the 'Air Gregorius' offices at Denham as well as the colourful shots of ASEH both at Denham and at Battersea. As it happens, in the 70's, Battersea had similar buildings to those seen at Denham.

Air Gregory .. 60's .. I think this was the 'era' when Gay Absolosm flew with them.

G-ASEH ended-up in the hands of Roger Hans Everett of Romsey, Hampshire, although it is a 'Major Roger Cyril Hans Sloane Stanley' who is shown in some records as being the owner of the Paultons Estate to where the craft was registered. Prior to Everett, G-ASEH was listed with BEAS (from 1963-66).

Keeping step with the recent Brantly/Alouette offerings ..

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Sud-Est SE3130 Alouette II F-BNKZ in the company of Brantly B-2B G-ASHD as seen at White Waltham on 13th August 1966 (Photo: RA Scholefield)

Both F-BNKZ and G-ASHD have featured previously on Nostalgia .. "KZ" being the 'well known' Alouette from the 60's TV series 'The Prisoner' (see page 44) and ASHD having belonged to Pontin's (see page 43).

A year after RA Scholefield's photo (above) .. F-BKNZ became G-AVEE and was registered (as can be seen from the logo on the craft's fuselage) to RBA Helicopters of 'St, Mary's Butts' (yes, St. Mary's Butts!) of Berkshire. Well .. I too was somewhat surprised at this questionable place name .. especially on a Sabbath .. until I discovered that: "In the Middle Ages, Edward IV made it compulsory for all yeomen in England to learn archery. Archery butts were set up on the land in front of the Minster Church of St Mary the Virgin. It was used by the adult males of Reading to practice on Sundays. The archers who used St Mary's Butts were amongst the English bowmen who fought at Battle of Agincourt. In 1631 the town paid £3 to stop the practising of archery in the town."

Oh .. and an 'archery butt'? 'Tis "an archery practice field, with mounds of earth used for the targets. The name originally referred to the targets themselves, but over time came to mean the platforms that held the targets as well. For instance, in Shakespeare's Othello, V,ii, 267 mentions "Here is my journey's end, here is my butt".

(At least when the missus complains that you spend too much time on PPRuNe, you can genuinely inform her that it is .. 'educational'!).

And .. (not that one should normally commence a sentence such) to bring the discourse full-circle .. subsequent to her time with RBA Helicopters, G-AVEE moved on to Air Gregory where she remained until 1973.

Savoia 20th August 2013 19:20

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Royal Navy Westland Wasp '84' from HMS Penelope lands aboard HMS Tiger mid-Atlantic between the UK and the West Indies in 1964. (Photo: David Ayres)

Evidently (and in order to accommodate the landing) 'Tiger's' rear guns had to be rotated. Later the ship would have a 'hangar' installed.

Savoia 21st August 2013 16:19

Exercise Pashtun Commando
 
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Royal Naval personnel from 845 Naval Air Squadron normally based at the Royal Naval Air Station Yeovilton in Somerset have been deployed to Aqaba, Jordan to conduct Environmental Training (ET) and Pre-Deployment Training (PDT) during Exercise Pashtun Commando 2013.

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Westland Sea King of 845 Naval Air Squadron overflies the Jordanian desert during Exercise Pashtun Commando 2013

Based at King Hussein International Air Base, the squadron (which spent four years in Afghanistan with its sister Commando Helicopter Force unit, 846 Naval Air Squadron) utilises the desert regions surrounding Aqaba and provides helicopter aircrews and ground crews with essential training in preparation for future operations.

"The prospect of losing all visual references during the final approach was a touch unsettling, but, under the watchful eye of experienced instructors, I was able to apply the techniques and get to grips with desert flying."

- Pilot Lieutenant Chris Gayson

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A Westland Sea King of 845 Naval Air Squadron practices 'brown out' landings during Exercise Pashtun Commando 2013

"The characteristics of the dust in Jordan really put an extra burden on the aircraft. The teams worked tirelessly to keep up the pace of flying."

- Pilot Lieutenant Chris Gayson

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A Westland Sea King of 845 Naval Air Squadron is inspected by one of the squadron's engineers during Exercise Pashtun Commando 2013

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The tail rotor belonging to a Westland Sea King of 845 Naval Air Squadron receives attention from one of the squadron's engineers during Exercise Pashtun Commando 2013

"The exercise has proved hugely beneficial for all members of the detachment. Clearly the main aim is to train and refresh aircrew in desert flying techniques – I have never experienced an environment so challenging and similar to that in Afghanistan."

"It is an amazing yet very tough environment to train in, but the members of the Commando Helicopter Force rose to the challenges and produced the goods, training hard so that we can fight easy."

- Lieutenant Commander Edwin Adams,
...Detachment commander

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A Westland Sea King of 845 Naval Air Squadron practices load-lifting operations during Exercise Pashtun Commando 2013

All photographs courtesy of Petty Officer Mez Merrill.

More 'Supa Sea Kings' on the following pages:

30 55 58 62 67 76 81

helipixman 1st September 2013 17:44

Gazelle Helicopter name
 
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While scanning my Gazelle photo collection I noticed a Kangaroo/Wallaby logo on the tail of Pre production Gazelle F-ZWRK construction No 04.

Does anyone know the significance of this.... or did we nearly have either the SA.341 Kangaroo or the SA341 Wallaby ?

Maybe I should have posted on the Gazelle thread but thought it would receive a wider audience here ?

Helipixman

Savoia 1st September 2013 18:30

Ciao Elipix! Great to see you back on the thread. :ok:

I am not sure how relevant this is but .. the French Air Force operated an electronic warfare squadron known as Armée de l'Air SARIGUE-NG standing for Systeme de Recueil d'Informations de Guerre Electronique (Airborne Electronic Warfare Information Gathering System) and the NG standing for 'nouvelle generation' (or new generation) which they added when they re-launched themselves in the 1990's (IIRC). Anyway, their symbol was a possum or 'tree kangaroo' (see patch below).

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W...e-Ng+patch.JPG

If is was not associated with this squadron (which I suspect) then it will be something altogether different.

Hopefully someone else may have further revelations. Perhaps if Zishelix is back from his holidays he might be able to assist!

chopper2004 1st September 2013 22:24

@Savoia

About the Shawbury Gazelle and the USAF exchange Captain, by any chance do you know if he was the exchange officer from Kirtland AFB or from the USAF portion of the US Army's Initial Entry Rotary Wing course at Ft Rucker?

On the same topic, when Helitech first moved up to my neck of the woods at Duxford in 2001, amongst the cadre of DHFS instructors walking around including the then RN CO, was an US Army exchange instructor. He had an interesting patch on his flight suit that read J-CSAR with Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines surrounding the emblem. Turned out by trade he flew CH-47D before going through the Personnel Exchange Program.

Are you attending Helitech in a few weeks time? The second day of the show falls on my birthday, so good time to celebrate as well :)
Cheers

Savoia 2nd September 2013 08:01


A year after RA Scholefield's photo (above) .. F-BKNZ became G-AVEE
And here is F-BKNZ a year later:

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Sud-Est SE3130 Alouette II G-AVEE (cn 1203) in the service of Air Gregory as seen at Plymouth's Roborough Airport on 17th October 1970 (Photo: Chris England)

Chopper: I don't have any further details on Capt. Phil Stinson but, someone who may (if you can get hold of him) is PPRuNer Gazelle2.

Interesting to hear about the exchange driver that you met at Duxford. I'm sure many of them have interesting stories to tell about their various experiences 'on loan' to the UK Forces, as indeed must some British flyers have of their exchanges Stateside!

I won't be a Helitech but otherwise would have unquestionably 'helped' you celebrate your special day. Will in any case raise a glass to your good health on the 25th.

Best regards

Sav

Zishelix 2nd September 2013 12:00

Helipixman,
the Kangaroo logo was added due to demo flights the SA.341-04 performed during 1969 to Australian Government agencies and civil operators. The machine was transported by French AF's Transall on October 20nd and assembled at Fairbairn Airport, Canberra, by Sud-Aviation technicians. The visit, lasting about ten days, was sponsored jointly by Office Francais d'Exportation de Material Aeronautique and Hawker de Havilland Australia. OFEMA and H de H in a joint statement said that "with oil and mineral exploration activities extending over an ever-increasing area throughout Australia and south-east Asia, the civil 'stretch' advantages of the SA.341 are of particular interest“. Demo flights were include high-altitude take-offs and landings in New Guinea. The SA.341-04 mission, led by Sud's helicopter sales engineer Christian Busson, ended November 6th, and the helicopter returned same way back to Marignane, France.

ericferret 2nd September 2013 16:21

Is that Gay Absalom standing by the Brantly? The style looks right.

Savoia 2nd September 2013 19:24

Zis: Great job! :D

Eric: The gentleman with the bald pate in the last of Wiggy's Brantly images does bear a resemblance to Rowland Absalom (Gay's father) as can be seen in the video clip below:

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In the clip, Rowland was flying G-ASXD which just happens to be framed by G-AVEE's tail rotor guard in Chris England's photo above Zishelix's post.

I did wonder however, whether in the first of Wiggy's Brantly images, Gay might be flying!

ericferret 2nd September 2013 22:26

I came across another photo of Gay and a Brantly (possibly the same one) but it's a black and white picture. Same hairdo. I have a suspicion that the gent with her in the photo above might be Mike Smith but without the confirmation of a bow tie not so certain.
However again the style looks right.

RVDT 3rd September 2013 07:12

Here is a blast for you. 1990!

Then -

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...orces/B-26.jpg

Now -
http://www.airport-data.com/images/a...878/878863.jpg

Then -
http://www.nordicrotors.com/images_2...splay_1005.jpg

Now -

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And the planks that were there as well.

http://img.planespotters.net/photo/2...Net_203826.jpg

http://images2.jetphotos.net/img/2/5...1294610155.jpg

Savoia 3rd September 2013 08:52

Eric: There are a couple of black and white photos of Gay on page 33.

RV: Some oblique 'matches':

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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...ber+1985..JPEG
This US Army Bell UH-1H was modified to resemble an Mi24 (though I suspect that this 'modification', in order to be effective, may have required the other pilots to ingest some form of psychotropic drug). Seen here at Fort Irwin, California, on 29th October 1985

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Still flying high, this beautiful example Bell 205A-1 (C-FETK) belonging to High Terrain Helicopters as seen over Nelson in British Columbia on 11th May 2011 (Photo: Jesse Adams)

fijdor 4th September 2013 15:52

There you are RVDT in action. "That" guy in the back is Lee Vlaar. Wonder where he ended-up.
Summer 1990 Corsica

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/v...psfe08176f.jpg

Here is one of the plank that did a short landing. Remember, pieces of the props
hit the hangar door, we all hit the asphalt.

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sycamore 5th September 2013 11:54

Helipix and Sav, the pic of Gazelle F-ZWRK/04 reminds me that I flew the aircraft several times in early 1971 as the AAEE project pilot.In May we were doing Stability Augmentation system (SAS) handling and `runaways `; later in the month myself and Cne.Castres(my CEV counterpart) did high altitude tests to 20000 ft. We then flew it from Marignane to Bretigny the following day.
With regard to the `Roo` on the fin,it may be that it was put on by an Australian TP that was at AAEE,but I do not recall that the aircraft was ever in the UK,but he may have flown it in France.

Savoia 5th September 2013 19:10

Sycamore: Great to hear of your exploits in France with 004. They must have been exciting days indeed!

Zis: Yesterday in our email exchange we discussed Korcula Island in your homeland. Today the island was the subject of some helicopter news!

Zishelix 6th September 2013 06:07

Indeed... actually, a friend of mine (the helicopter crew) assisted the doctor! So now we call him a Midwife :) :)

Savoia 9th September 2013 09:11

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The City State of Monaco, nestled along a stretch of coastline in Southern France known as the Cote d'Azur, has long been associated with the helicopter and is home to one of the world's long-running helicopter airlines.

Since 1297 when Francesco Grimaldi and his companions (dressed as monks) invaded the town from Genoa, the Grimaldi family have ruled this tiny Principality.

Prince Rainier III, known as the 'builder Prince', was one of the initial advocates of helicopter services and was responsible for the development of what is now the Fontvieille Quarter (developed from reclaimed land) and which harbours the city's national heliport.

Heli Air Monaco (HAM) The Beginning

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Heli-Monaco Enstrom F-28A 3A-MJC

'Heli-Monaco' commenced services with a sole Enstrom F-28 in 1976. During the first year of operations, 3A-MJC carries 747 passengers.

In 1978 the now 'Heli Air Monaco' added a second aircraft:

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Agusta-Bell 206 JetRanger II 3A-MRG becomes the second aircraft in the Heli Air Monaco (HAM) fleet

In 1980 the Fontvieille Heliport is opened (previous operations utilised a helipad in the same area). In 1980 HAM flew 15,237 passengers.

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Fontvieille Heliport in 1980

By 1983 the fleet had expanded to four helicopters and the passengers flown that year were 39,673.

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HAM's 1983 fleet consisting of two JetRangers, one LongRanger and their first Ecureuil

HAM's 'official' account of their history indicates that their first 206 arrived in 1978 but .. a contact of mine believes their first 206 arrived in 1977. We shall see.

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Heli Air Monaco's first Agusta-Bell 206A 3A-MCC arriving at the helipad at Fontvieille c.1977 (Photo: Jean-Paul Bascoul)

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Early HAM publicity depicting 3A-MCC over the Principality (Courtesy of Zishelix)

Shane101 10th September 2013 21:58

whoop whoop whoop whoop Irish Press Sep 22, 1992
 
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Savoia 11th September 2013 15:23

Shane: Most interesting.

We've looked at the Decca Navigation Company's little songbird .. G-ARIA previously in posts 1365 1370 and 1547.

In this new contribution we get to see ARIA a year before she was bought by Decca while still in the hands of World Wide Helicopters:

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World Wide Helicopters Bell 47G G-ARIA as seen at Biggin Hill in June 1964 (Photo: David Welch)

One must of course ask the question "what kind of sorties required her to don fixed-floats" but, alas, it is a question to which I do not yet have the answer.

500 Fan 11th September 2013 16:10

Thanks for that scan, Shane. I always wondered what the story was behind the "Irish" Kamov!

500 Fan.

Shane101 11th September 2013 21:55

You'll like this then 500
 
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sillohed 12th September 2013 15:06

World Wide Helicopters
 
Savoia,
I am wondering if the World Wide Bell 47 might be N2499B which I flew from an offshore rig in Libya in December 1963. In late January we replaced it with an S-55 and I don't know where the 47 went after that. Regrettably I can't find any pictures of it but it was on fixed floats until it left Libya.

Savoia 12th September 2013 15:45

Silohed: From what I can see N2499B remained as N2499B throughout her career.

G-ARIA's registration history is as follows: NC152B > N152B > YI-ABY > N4929V > G-ARIA > F-GFDP.

Perhaps the floats were a left over from her time with AF Helicopters of San Fernando who owned her when she was N4929V?

sillohed 13th September 2013 12:08

Decca
 
There was a business relationship between Decca and World Wide about the time of this photo. If I recall they shared hangar space or were adjacent to each other on the airport. We were doing the North Sea exploration job at World Wide in 1963 and we used Decca navigation equipment in the S-58's so there may have been some equipment testing that required floats.

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Savoia 18th September 2013 19:56

Sillohed: Thanks for the details. Several images of World Wide's aircraft show them on the Decca ramp at Biggin and it is doubtless, as you say, that cooperation existed.

Having presented a fixed-float 47 from the 60's, it seems only fair to balance this with a contemporary craft from the same period:

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Trans World Helicopters Hughes 300 EI-AOU at Blackbushe Airport in September 1966 (Photo: Peter Brown)

Savoia 21st September 2013 10:30

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Irish Air Corps Alouette III 197 at Casement Aerodrome, Baldonnel, Co. Dublin in 1969 (Photo: Steve Treacy)

Shane101 22nd September 2013 09:50

Keep em coming Sav

Savoia 23rd September 2013 19:21

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Irish Helicopters Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm Bo105D EI-AWB at Shannon Airport on 23rd April 1973 (Photo: MBB Archives)

AWB had an 'exciting' time on the Emerald Isle including, at one point, a brush with the Garda when she was hijacked by the IRA!

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EI-AWB 'rests' in a field in Cloughfin, Co. Donegal on 24th January 1974 having been hijacked by IRA members Eddie Gallagher and Rose Dugdale. (Photo: Victor Patterson)

Gallagher and Dugdale used the hijacked aircraft to drop bombs (contained in milk churns) on the Royal Ulster Constabulary station at Strabane. Mercifully, none of the bombs detonated.

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EI-AWB 'abandoned' at Cloughfin on 24th January 1974. (Photo: Victor Patterson)

Of course EI-AWB is better known as G-AZOM (aka 'Or-gazom' .. to some) which began life as a 'C' model (serial no. 21) originally used as a demonstrator by MBB in 1971 while flying as D-HDAD.

In 1972 she was bought by BEAS at Oxford and later the same year commenced her sojourn in the Irish Republic returning to BEAS (now owned by Bristows) in 1978.

Her 'exciting' career was to continue when in 1984 she suffered a partial separation of her tail rotor gearbox in-flight and which led to fleet-wide modifications to the 105.

Although we've talked about G-AZOM before I don't think we've ever looked at the accident report, an extract of which is reproduced here:


Incident date: 24 July 1984
Commander: Age 40
Experience: 9500 hrs of which 4100 hrs were on Bo105s

The purpose of the 30 minute flight was to transport two passengers from Strubby Heliport in Lincolnshire, to Bacton Gas Terminal in Norfolk. The weather was good and the commander decided to conduct the flight at 1000 feet amsl flying visually on a direct track from Stubby to Bacton. At approximately 11:55 hrs, with one of the passengers in the front left seat, the aircraft lifted from Strubby Heliport for Bacton. The departure was normal and the commander levelled the aircraft at 1000 feet amsl and established a cruising speed of 110 knots.

When the aircraft was approximately 5nm off the coast of Skegness, the commander heard a 'dull bang' from the rear of the aircraft accompanied by a 'twitch' in the pedals. His immediate impression was that something was wrong with the tail rotor and he decided to descend so as to be closer to the surface and also to turn right towards Skegness. At this point there was no apparent loss of yaw control so the commander established the aircraft in a 70 kt powered descent turning to the right. During the descent he felt further vibrations and so decided to ditch. Accordingly, he activated the aircraft's emergency flotation system and called Strubby to announce his ditching but did not transmit a full distress message. The commander instructed his passengers to don their lifejackets. By this time it was apparent that the yaw pedals, though still effective, were losing sensitivity. Nevertheless, the commander flared successfully but, as power was applied in order to reduce the descent rate, all yaw control was lost and the aircraft performed two or three 360° turns to the right before contacting the water.

As a result of the aircraft's rotation when contacting the sea, one of the four floats detached, and the aircraft rolled onto its right side. It stabilised for sufficient time to allow the front seat passenger to jettison his door through which all three occupants escaped. Shortly after the passengers and commander had exited the aircraft, it rolled upside down.

The aircraft was lying on its right side with the detached flotation bag beneath the commander's door preventing it from being opened. However, the front seat passenger had familiarised himself with the jettison mechanism of his door and, as a result of his swift action, this became the most convenient egress. The evacuation of the cabin was completed in less than 30 seconds.

On entering the water one of the passengers inflated his type RFD 102 lifejacket and the commander, who had already inflated his Beaufort Mk15 lifejacket, assisted the remaining passenger with the inflation of his lifejacket. Both passengers were wearing immersion suits but did not have them fully zipped up. However, the water temperature was such that none of the survivors suffered from hypothermia in the half hour between the ditching and the rescue. During this period the commander activated his personal radio locator beacon type BE375 Sabre, and at approximately 12:05 hrs fired the first of his own two red flares. He elected to keep the second to guide the rescuers once he was certain that it would be visible to them and fired it at 12:36 hrs
AAIB Bulletin: G-AZOM


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