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PNVS 5th January 2000 02:56

AAC sink or swim.
 


INTENTIONALLY BLANK - next time you pass through EGAA give me a call and I'll tell you about the long distance phone call I have just had!

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stas-fan 5th January 2000 03:12

Sink or Swim you ask? It depends how long it takes us to get to them with the winch......

Skycop 5th January 2000 03:32

Give close air support back to the crabs where it belongs and I for one might consider joining up again.

Oops, spelling!

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PurplePitot 5th January 2000 05:32

Can I ask by the way who are we planning to fight with this awesome technology? (Apart from the French of course)

sparecrew 5th January 2000 22:52

Dear dear, PNVS old chap, dontcha know that if one has been a colonel in the British Army, then one can do absolutely anything............and bugger it up!
No wonder ATIL have poached the AACs tech and weapons instructors to sit in the next office to the Sim instructors to tell them what to say and do.

stas-fan 6th January 2000 02:43

Poached? Come off it sparecrew. My cousin who fly's (occasionally) for you lot says that the door sliders ATIL have approached are all beyond the 22yr point and are not required in the new Army orgbat. Not that they ever were.

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PurplePitot 6th January 2000 02:57

I think the crabs gave up on CAS Skycop when the stopped getting within 20,000 ft of the (alleged) bad guys. We could always call it "Most un-adjacent Support of Sorts"!

2's forward 1's back 8th January 2000 17:05

Why all the talk of giving the crabs the AH?
Did anybody ever suggest that the Cavalry shouldn't get the Tank?
Look the Army do the fighting and the Crabs do the supporting.
Get the picture?

MBJ 10th January 2000 17:41

Close Air Support to the Crabs - don't even start that idea for fun! You can bet half-a-dozen Air Marshalls have already tried that one on. Just like they pinched Naval fixed- wing because they could do it so much better/ cheaper whatever. I don't think.

Oh, and Purplepitot, there is bound to be someone who wants fight somewhere. Speak softly but carry a big stick is a good plan.

What we want is more Marines! (Duck and weave :))

Skycop 11th January 2000 00:22

Does all this mean that the Grunts have at last decided they don't want to take over SH or run the world then? :)

64av8or 11th January 2000 00:57

PNVS, have some confidence that the validation process will take its course and any quality problems will be dealt with as they arise. The AAC has a huge task ahead but is well up for it. Are you?

MightyGem 11th January 2000 07:54

Thank you 64av8or for that. The only problems that the AAC will have is getting the money to buy the right ground support equipment to do the job. I have this vision of Apaches being refuelled by Bedford bowsers!!

SKIDS ARE FOR KIDS!!

64av8or 13th January 2000 23:14

Bedford Bowsers were dismissed in favour of zenith pumps on all terrain castor wheels. The Reme will operate them as they have the required technical know-how!

2's forward 1's back 16th January 2000 21:12

Will the zenith pump have "flot gear" fitted to help the AAC swim?

HeliAv8tor 19th January 2000 21:28

So, if the AAC is so bouyant why were they/are they canvassing Tornado Nav's to re-tread? As to the SH boys they are extremely capable, probably more so that you green jobs (speaking as someone who has been aviating on both sides of the fence). My advice get current on your STASS and dinghy drills, you may need them (Does your budget still cover your STASS training, I heard you had suspended it for now) :rolleyes:

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roprick 22nd January 2000 02:34

There seem to be some very conceited veiws from the blue jobs out there. If we left the CAS to the RAF then it would only be available when its CAVOK, and only if the 5 star hotel was within a fuel tanks range.

Remember the grass always seems greener on the other side. Having just spent a long time on a course with the RAF fast jet and rotor boys, then I know where i would rather be. Fast jet 4 to 5 hours a month no thanks.

Sorry you blue job guys but get to know the facts before gobbing off, the WAH 64 CAS I dont think so! Just because we Have NCO Aircrew. If it wasnt for NCO Aircrew maybe we would'nt of faired so well in the Battle of Britain.

HeliAv8tor 22nd January 2000 21:14

Roprick, 'fraid I know the facts old son, I used to train you guys :)

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roprick 23rd January 2000 01:43

So you used to train us, then you will know that we are not going to take nav's. nothing against them, infact I have a very good friend how is a Tornado Nav. But it seems that you think we wont be able to handle it. If the US can then need I say more.

HeliAV8tor a QHI gosh what can I say. An expert in every field or so you think. well the army ones that is. No disrespect to all you QHI but just stick to the teaching flying.

I must agree the AAC has to get away from the soldiers first bollocks.

But I really cant stomach the blue jobs slagging down very good pilots just because they are NCO's.

Hoist-to-Crew 23rd January 2000 03:04

Blue jobs who work with crews know the value of ncos, those who don't ...don't.

Ack2Main 23rd January 2000 15:00

I heard a story about booty's all being commisioned! Is this true and is this really the demise of the AAC as well.

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