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When I was in Donauworth for sim training, the instructor said the 5 bladed rotor is not going anywhere near the new 145 because it took more power without any real benifit in lift. But it was a smooth ride.
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New Eurocopter- EC 145 T2
The newest member of Eurocopter’s helicopter family was formally launched this month with the unveiling of its EC145 T2 – an evolved version of the popular twin-engine EC145 that incorporates new Arriel 2E engines, along with the company’s Fenestron shrouded tail rotor, upgraded main and tail rotor gear boxes, an innovative new digital avionics suite and a 4-axis autopilot.
http://pilotmagazin.ro/wp-content/up.../EC145T2_3.jpg EC145 T2 debut was at the Heli-Expo 2011 exposition in Orlando, Florida, where Eurocopter also announced launch agreements for a total of 17 helicopters from four international customers, who plan to utilize these rotary-wing aircraft in emergency medical services (EMS), oil and gas operations and business aviation. More info here: Eurocopter expands its product line with the EC145 T2 helicopter, integrating more powerful engines, a Fenestron tail rotor, new avionics and mission capabilities upgrades - Pilot Magazin |
Its like putting lipstick on a pig........
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Its like putting lipstick on a pig........ It adresses the points which hinder a bigger success of the EC145 in the EMS market compared to the EC-135: - Insufficent Power - Open Tail rotor (which is considered almost a no-go for HEMS in many countries in Europe). - No FADEC Reasonable move on behalf of EC. This ship is not primarily aimed at bragging rights at your Golf Club.... |
The -C2 cried out for FADEC so thats a good thing.
Replacing the T/R removes the issues with the inclined G/box meshing and Tail shakes/repairs. All seems good...so far...I dont know what fenestron issues the 135 had/has. |
And here's my shots of the Tango Two at Heli Expo last week, spent time at Bell Helicopter stand to see the unveiling of the 407GX and 407AH so I missed the rollout of the T2
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/P3080894.jpg http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/P3060535.jpg http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/P3060536.jpg http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/P3060534.jpg cheers :ok: |
"..the instructor said the 5 bladed rotor is not going anywhere near the new 145 because it took more power without any real benifit in lift." If the 5-bladed rotor has any problem, it is 'being shot down for political reasons'.. But that rotor won't die, it will just reincarnate in a stronger, more viable form:ok::} |
Was it only last week? Time flies!
Someone, not sure who needs to be congratulated on the quality of work on the EC145T2 mock up I was asked where the serial number was! Not so sure 'works of art' in this sphere have started carrying a s/n just yet..... although '1 of a series of 3' might just catch on and who knows they may get something akin to a BAPC number one day! BTW the glass cockpit is the same as that from the EC175 [and that part looked 'real' enough as well] - I believe it will not be an option, take it or pay heavily for something else. That option will have an effect on law enforcement use and the TFO/observer will probably have to use the same screen. |
Originally Posted by PANews
Someone, not sure who needs to be congratulated on the quality of work on the EC145T2 mock up I was asked where the serial number was! Not so sure 'works of art' in this sphere have started carrying a s/n just yet..... although '1 of a series of 3' might just catch on and who knows they may get something akin to a BAPC number one day!
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Official presentation flight at Donauwörth 18.March.2011
skadi |
Any idea what this is all about :
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...11/145Tail.jpg .... Is it a "Repair" of some sort ???? Didn't seem to be present during the filmed flights .... http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1.../Coconutty.jpg |
Mounts for some flighttest-sensors or cameras:
Helionline.de They also flew with different endplates: Helionline.de skadi |
DRF Luftrettung, Germany signed contract for 25 EC 145 T2
Helicopter manufacturer, aircraft helicopter military, colibri helicopter - Eurocopter, an EADS company skadi |
EC 145 (outside Europe) / UH-72A AEO-TOP ?
All in the title. Thx for answering.
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http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...FILE/H13EU.pdf
http://easa.europa.eu/certification/...3-29112010.pdf Still no ideas, or you guys just look at FLI needles ? |
JB-319,
You may get more of a response if you made your question in plain English rather than in shorthand and links to documents, expecting Rotorheads to work out just what you are after. I cannot fathom out your request, and suspect that the lack of response is because others cannot either :confused: |
Sorry about that, but i thought AEO TOP would be clear enough...
(All Engines Operative Take Off Power) 5 minutes, the red bar on top of the FLI (10). |
Thanks: but what is it about the AEO TOP that you want to know?
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Max Torque and RPM are different, with same engines. I'm just wondering why.
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Maybe the EASA document is current (November 2010) whereas the FAA one is 3 years older (November 2007)? They also refer to different Construction Number blocks, but that could be region specific or give a clue to an update in the EASA Type Certificate that is missing in the FAA one.
Rotorheads are pretty good at many things, but mind reading isn't high on the list ;) |
Are you comparing the EC145 (with EASA TCDS) with the UH-72A?
The two h/c are not the same, the EC145 is the civil version and the UH-72 is the US ARMY version. |
The EC145-C2 and the UH-72A are the same aircraft
Prior to delivery to the Army the aircraft is certificated as an EC145-C2. Therefore the flight manual limits are the same for both aircraft. As already said the TOP power has been increased from 83% to 88% AEO long time ago. |
Thanks for your replies.
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EC-145 verses UH-72A
The United States Army wanted an off-the-shelf civilian helicopter with no modifications, military radio installation noted, but the whole idea was to minimize the cost with no R&D associated exspenses. I do however believe the United States Army, had Eurocopter change the direction the rotors turn to (counter-clockwise) to bring the airframe inline with all the other single rotor ships in the inventory. Just my 2 cents, paid in full!!!
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I do however believe the United States Army, had Eurocopter change the direction the rotors turn to (counter-clockwise) to bring the airframe inline with all the other single rotor ships in the inventory. Just my 2 cents, paid in full!!! So the rotors are turning anticlockwise ( like the BO105 ) ... skadi |
BK117...Bo105?
B = Bolkow (AKA Bo) K = Kawasaki Kawasaki builds the basic Airframe/Cabin - and ships them to Donauwoerth for assembly by Bolkow (even the US Army ones) The assembly "Lines" for the US frames were interspersed with civil frames, I was there when they went through, but I believe the US frames had a block of numbers allocated to just that contract. The only real difference on delivery was the external finish. Secure Radios & any special role equipment fitted in the states I think? |
Eurocopter’s EC145 Helicopter: 500 Deliveries and Still Going Strong
http://www.defpro.com/data/gfx/news/...2a5110_big.jpg The 500th EC145 helicopter was delivered by Eurocopter today, marking a new milestone for this twin-engine workhorse rotorcraft that continues in high-rate production for international customers. Eurocopter’s 500th EC145, along with the 501st production helicopter, were provided to Transportes Aereos Pegaso, which is the largest Mexican operator in the Gulf of Mexico. Pegaso already operates 13 EC145s and four of the predecessor BK117 versions, with an additional EC145 to be provided to this customer in May. Delivery of the 500th EC145 occurred at Eurocopter’s Donauwörth, Germany facility, where the helicopter is built. The handover comes 10 years after Eurocopter’s delivery of the no. 1 EC145 in April 2002, and it was witnessed by Francisco Nicolas Gonzalez Diaz, the Ambassador of Mexico in Germany, along with political and industrial representatives and some 600 company employees who have contributed to the helicopter’s successful production run. |
Scottish Air Ambulance Contract - BAS provide Tango Twos
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Proposed UH-72B
Just read in Combat Aircraft Vol 14, which has just come out that apparently the US Army are in talks with American Eurocopter about the proposed UH-72B variant which is the T2.
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Baden Wuttemberg Police is first law enforcement customer
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T2 finally certified :)
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T2
We had the chance to check it out when they came touring through Asia, a step forward sure; avionics, a little more snort from the engines and the welcome addition of FADEC.
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FADEC
There is no FADEC in a ec 145?:ooh:
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EC145 (BK117-C2) doesn't have FADEC.
EC145-T2 (BK117-D2) has FADEC now, 4-axis autopilot and Fenestron. |
Training manual
Hi there,
Since I got no reply at the 'Flight Manual request' thread, I'll try it a second time here. I'm looking for an English version of the BK117's Training Manual (version C-2 if possible) in pdf. Can someone help me with this? Many thanks, VB |
First EC145T2 delivered to DRF
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ADAC receive their new EC145T2
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Hums
Any talk of HUMS in the latest variant? I know FADEC accomplishes some of this, but...
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HUMS available as an option.
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