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[email protected] 27th Oct 2021 09:11


we have to accept that we are very much a third country in the eyes of EASA.
That wasn't on the advert for the 'sunlit uplands' of Brexit, was it?:{

212man 27th Oct 2021 10:08


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 11132934)
That wasn't on the advert for the 'sunlit uplands' of Brexit, was it?:{

It was in the small print........

[email protected] 27th Oct 2021 11:04


It was in the small print........
:) Along with all the other truths and unpleasant realities people didn't vote for.........

deltahotel 27th Oct 2021 11:06

To reinforce cyclic and my post #13. At the moment the process for getting a U.K. licence alongside an existing EASA licence is simple but tedious and lengthy due workload at CAA. After end 2022 who knows? If you think you might want/need the U.K. licence my advice is to get on with it. It’s only 14 months away!

It probably wasn’t in the small print but has an E in it so that’s a clue!

Seymour Belvoir 28th Oct 2021 02:25


Originally Posted by deltahotel (Post 11130112)
Hargreaves. No, you’re fine. Regardless of the wording you now have a UK issued national licence. As far as EASA is concerned it is a ‘third country licence’ so can’t be used on any non G reg ac.

rgds

Thanks for the info deltahotel and hargreaves99, doing nothing to change my UK issued EU ATPL(H) seems like a good option.

haihio 28th Oct 2021 06:47


Originally Posted by deltahotel (Post 11130495)
https://www.enac.gov.it/sicurezza-ae...-easa-part-fcl

Here’s Italy! My Italian colleague says it’s for previous holders of Italian licence.



I doesn’t say it’s only for previous holders of Italian licenses. It’s for anyone that has the requirements they specify.
Sadly for individuals like myself ( UK CPL IR) that only fly single pilot and haven’t got an ATPL it doesn’t apply if the theory exams were completed over three years ago.
For ATPL holders though it says so long as your type rating or Instrument rating has not lapsed more than 7 years you can convert subject to an initial class one medical as well.

On the whole though I’d say there is a little bit of light shining at the end of the tunnel as when I last checked a few months ago the Italian CAA was expecting the full 14 exams and flight training in an ATO.

deltahotel 28th Oct 2021 10:41

Oh ok. Well so much the better and best wishes to all. I was going on the interpretation of an Italian colleague and the translated phrase somewhere in there of ‘to regain the SOLI of Italy’.

Anyway, good luck all!

ReefPilot 7th Mar 2022 17:00

UK CAA CPL(H) to Malta EASA CPL(H)
 
Wondering if anyone has had any joy with Transport Malta or others in obtaining an EASA CPL based on their UK CAA CPL?

ATPL exams were done in 2011 with 4 repeats last year for IR purposes. Is a skills test required?

Cheers,
RP

ersa 8th Mar 2022 09:20


Originally Posted by ReefPilot (Post 11196132)
Wondering if anyone has had any joy with Transport Malta or others in obtaining an EASA CPL based on their UK CAA CPL?

ATPL exams were done in 2011 with 4 repeats last year for IR purposes. Is a skills test required?

Cheers,
RP

I'm led to believe if you have a UK CAA CPL now and didn't apply for a conversion before 31/12/2020, you will be up for 14 exams and a skills test for the CPL....(EASA). Mackay ?

gipsymagpie 8th Mar 2022 11:16

Read the full thread...
 
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....947c761c09.jpg
Malta

ReefPilot 8th Mar 2022 11:35

Thanks Gipsy, missed that. That’s coherent enough for me!

Cheers ersa, many thanks for reply. Yes I’m formerly Mackay, QLD based but fanging around South Wales’ airspace now. Where you based?

RP

gipsymagpie 8th Mar 2022 14:19


Originally Posted by ReefPilot (Post 11196132)
Wondering if anyone has had any joy with Transport Malta or others in obtaining an EASA CPL based on their UK CAA CPL?

ATPL exams were done in 2011 with 4 repeats last year for IR purposes. Is a skills test required?

Cheers,
RP

Critical bit for atpl exam validity on helicopters is your last validity of type rating not your IR. If you have a type rating on licence in last seven years, your ATPL credit is still good (unless you did older military credit system of course....)

ReefPilot 8th Mar 2022 14:30

Yes that’s how I read it too, my last type rating would have been in August 2020 and prior would have been 2018 so good on either front. Cheers Gipsy.

Seems that a skills test may not be required either which negates me trying to find an examiner with a Maltese approval 😂

have emailed them nonetheless for the full picture…

muermel 31st Jul 2022 15:55

Conversion route still possible?
 
Hello

I'm considering applying for the UK CPLH but received an email from a friend, containing the attached note from the CAA. What am I supposed to make of this? Is there time until December 31st or is it already too late? Got myself an appointment for the initial class 1 for beginning of october so I'm considering scrapping the whole idea. Don't want to chase several hundred GBP from the AME or the CAA when they tell me in december "Sorry your application won't go through in time cause we can't process everything in time." I was under the impression that as long as I filled out the necessery forms etc. until the end of the year I would eventually receive my UK-CAA issued CPLH or am I not getting something here?

Bye

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3bc2390adf.jpg

gipsymagpie 31st Jul 2022 16:22


Originally Posted by muermel (Post 11270834)
Hello

I'm considering applying for the UK CPLH but received an email from a friend, containing the attached note from the CAA. What am I supposed to make of this? Is there time until December 31st or is it already too late? Got myself an appointment for the initial class 1 for beginning of october so I'm considering scrapping the whole idea. Don't want to chase several hundred GBP from the AME or the CAA when they tell me in december "Sorry your application won't go through in time cause we can't process everything in time." I was under the impression that as long as I filled out the necessery forms etc. until the end of the year I would eventually receive my UK-CAA issued CPLH or am I not getting something here?

Bye

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3bc2390adf.jpg

I think starting after 31 Aug might be risky but right now it's not too late.

muermel 31st Jul 2022 16:55

Ok but you can't apply unless you have a medical and since there's only 3 AeMCs that can issue an initial one and 2 of them already offer November for appointments, I picked the earliest date which was beginning of October.
So basically the CAA is not telling the truth when they say "Deadline is 31st of December 2022" because they argue "If we can't get it processed until 31st you won't get the licence".


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