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Convert EASA ATPLH to UK ATPLH

Old 20th Oct 2021, 15:05
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Convert EASA ATPLH to UK ATPLH

Hello To all
One simple question to the forum......or maybe more than just one

Is it possible to convert/get a validation from EASA ATPLH to a UK ATPLH?

My understanding is that the first step is to get a UK Medical class 1. Is this correct?

Also, after this one what are the next steps?
Ive tried to read the UK CAA website for some info....but.....got overloaded with info.

Thanks to all

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Old 20th Oct 2021, 20:25
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Originally Posted by berlioz View Post
Hello To all
One simple question to the forum......or maybe more than just one

Is it possible to convert/get a validation from EASA ATPLH to a UK ATPLH?

My understanding is that the first step is to get a UK Medical class 1. Is this correct?

Also, after this one what are the next steps?
Ive tried to read the UK CAA website for some info....but.....got overloaded with info.

Thanks to all

Happy landings
convert is very different to validation. You are basically validated already until the end of 2022 under a blanket approval. If you held your EASA licence before 2021 there is a streamlined (ish) process to convert to UK ATPL.

the first step is to read the following page and do what is says:

https://www.caa.co.uk/Commercial-ind...alent-licence/
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 09:37
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I wrote an article here which may help guide you through the licence and medical process:

EASA FCL to UK Part equivalent licence conversion
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 10:10
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Originally Posted by hargreaves99 View Post
If somebody has a UK issued EASA ATPL(H) and they do nothing..what happens to their licence in Dec 2022?
Strange one, you no longer have a EASA license you have a UK ATPL. The other point is that you must have the right to live and work in the UK to gain employment in the UK.
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 10:38
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If somebody has a UK issued EASA ATPL(H) and they do nothing..what happens to their licence in Dec 2022 ?

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Old 21st Oct 2021, 11:07
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There is no longer such a thing as a U.K. issued EASA licence. Only a U.K. licence or an EASA licence.

Currently EASA licence holders can still fly G reg aircraft but the reverse sadly cannot be done.

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Old 21st Oct 2021, 14:53
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While we have the experts here, my ATPLH is UK issued but says European Union on it - can I still use it as an EASA Licence until Dec 22?
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 14:54
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Nope. There's 14 exams to do first
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 14:56
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The same 14 exams it took to get it in the first place?
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 14:58
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Yey. Don't forget the medical you already had, the ratings, the certification standards, the same rules....
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 15:04
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It's bonkers.....................
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 15:07
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Nonsense, if you held a UK issued EASA licence prior to 31st Dec 2020, (IE when the UK was a member state) you can convert to an EASA licence without taking any exams. Same going from EASA to UK, with a few exceptions.
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 15:20
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If you SOLId out to another EASA state before end 2020 it was easy. If you had a non UK EASA licence before end 2020, getting a UK licence is easy but lengthy because the CAA is snowed under. Mine took 5 months from start to finish. At the moment getting EASA licence from UK is variable - the basics are 14 exams, medical, skills test, money. That said some countries are starting to make recognition noises and it may become simpler. Malta seems to be openish. Italy for previous Italian licence holders also. I’m doing Skills Test on an Italian this w/e to facilitate this.

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Old 21st Oct 2021, 15:34
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my ATPL(H) was issued by the CAA in 2011 and it says the following on the front page

United Kingdom Civil Aviation Authority
EUROPEAN UNION
FLIGHT CREW LICENCE
In Accordance with Part-FCL
This licence complies with ICAO Standards, except for the LAPL and EIR Privileges


so....do i need to do anything before Dec 2022 in order to be able to fly a G-reg in UK airspace?

I've looked at the CAA advice and I can't figure it out.
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 15:40
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does the UK CAA still have to turn a 6% profit in to the treasury ?
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 15:44
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Hargreaves. No, you’re fine. Regardless of the wording you now have a UK issued national licence. As far as EASA is concerned it is a ‘third country licence’ so can’t be used on any non G reg ac.

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Old 21st Oct 2021, 15:59
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Thanks, why on earth do the CAA make their "advice" so complicated?
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 16:06
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Originally Posted by rudestuff View Post
Nonsense, if you held a UK issued EASA licence prior to 31st Dec 2020, (IE when the UK was a member state) you can convert to an EASA licence without taking any exams. Same going from EASA to UK, with a few exceptions.
Really?
https://www.easa.europa.eu/the-agenc...and-licensing-
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...0R0723&from=EN
https://info.caa.co.uk/uk-eu-transit...ercial-pilots/
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 16:07
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Mmmmm. You’ve got me there!! Good luck with whatever you’re doing. Fwiw my newly issued CAA licence has identical wording to yours minus the EUROPEAN UNION. If you need a new printed bit (new rating, extension of privileges etc) you’ll have the same.
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Old 21st Oct 2021, 16:09
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If you didn't SOLI out before 31/12/20 then you no longer have an EASA licence. Some EU states are less "stringent" in issuing EASA licences based on your UK licence, you just have to know which one to choose. If your TRE has both licences then he/she can validate your UK and EASA licence at the same time in one PC as long as the requirements don't drift too far apart which they shouldn't.
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