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Prizmatic 6th Aug 2023 10:54


Originally Posted by sandringham1 (Post 11479723)
Interesting Youtube interview with a business working on a similarly sized power plant to the Hill unit. TurbAero are developing a new turbine engine in the 200hp class for GA applications, time scales and parts sourcing mentioned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUpsT-iBw1E

Humble guy making sensible claims and not offering it to fools for no money... the polar opposite of Hill (with an H).

hargreaves99 11th Aug 2023 08:58

4 months until it flies...

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2b267e9696.png

[email protected] 11th Aug 2023 11:56

Oink, oink, oink:)

hargreaves99 11th Aug 2023 12:05

start the slow defrost now?

you don't want to rush it and have to defrost in the microwave at 11pm on 31st Dec




[email protected] 11th Aug 2023 16:16

I think the use of the words 'currently scheduled to take flight' leaves loads of room for slippage (sorry, rescheduling) - getting test flying done in winter weather will be interesting.

Shagpile 14th Aug 2023 10:56


I suspect this long thread will continue to go back and forth as things are designed. “He got an engine but look it blew up ha ha”. “Look it flies but they had ground resonance how **** is that”. “They made their factory but it was late”. “Oh yeah they are selling but it’s a long wait time and £100k more than they promised”. “Oh look it only goes 140kts, all those hill evangilists said it would probably go 160”. “Haha look it’s got an AD for this issue now - we said that would be a problem 3 years ago”. People will always complain.
Haters gonna hate I guess.

Bell_ringer 14th Aug 2023 14:24


Originally Posted by Shagpile (Post 11484597)
Haters gonna hate I guess.

Quoting Taylor Swift lyrics? Must be that discerning sense of style and taste Hill keeps telling us his market has :E

[email protected] 15th Aug 2023 06:34


Haters gonna hate I guess.
No haters here - just people who want to see the promises materialise - Hill set himself on a pedestal making bold claims about a product he hadn't built - is he worthy of that pedestal or is he a false idol being worshipped?

nikoel 15th Aug 2023 09:06


Originally Posted by Shagpile (Post 11484597)
Haters gonna hate I guess.

Ain't it funny? Rumors fly
And I know you heard about Hill's
So hey, let's be friends
I'm dying to see how this grift ends
Grab Hill's door handle and my hand
He can make bad promises good... for at least a decade

hargreaves99 15th Aug 2023 09:37

My own personal prediction is that Hill will get - -something- in the air by Spring 2024, there will be fancy video etc and lots of talk, and this will unlock a ton of new funding/orders, and this saga will run for another 5 years at least

Shagpile 15th Aug 2023 11:19


Originally Posted by Bell_ringer (Post 11484713)
Quoting Taylor Swift lyrics?

Haha I literally have no idea about this sorry to disappoint

cyclic_fondler 15th Aug 2023 16:13


Originally Posted by Shagpile (Post 11484597)
Haters gonna hate I guess.

I don't think anyone hates Hill or wants this to fail but he just needs to be more realistic on the time scales. I hope he does make this a success, provide a large amount of direct/indirect jobs and also help bring back aircraft manufacture to the UK. If I had the money, I would invest in an attractive looking HX50 rather than other say a new R44/R66 or a 505!

He can't control the planning purpose, which may have a big effect on the time scales, but he should give updates to manage clients/buyers expectations.

Simple questions as I have no idea about these,
Once a helicopter is 50+% built by the owner , what are there any restrictions on the flights? Is there a minimum hours requirement within a certain range of the "build area" ?

Would it not have been better to build the factory on an existing airfield ? Personally, I would have put in planning permissions at atleast two different sites so that the councils would be aware that they could loose lots of jobs by rejecting the planning.







Resident_01 15th Aug 2023 16:36

I am a resident in the village sorry hamlet and I'd like Dr Hill to tell me where he's got that figure of 1.5m to the area for hospitality when he couldn't answer at the local planning meeting i attended how many decibels take off would be ?
You couldnt spend that in 2 years around here never mind 2 weeks !

Even the planning committee won't fall for that.
As for Stoke Air Ambulance .... pfffft

CGameProgrammerr 15th Aug 2023 16:44

I do feel it was idiotic for him not to build at or near an airport; people complain about noise from airports too but they were the ones that bought houses near an airport so they have nothing to complain about. But these farmers do have legitimate concerns because Hill is trying to build a heliport where previously there was none, so that would be noise that wasn't there before. They're not that loud of course (not like jets) but obviously property owners will try to stop it.

Agile 17th Aug 2023 04:34

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7687df017a.png

P1tchlink 17th Aug 2023 06:19

Are they electromechanical servos controlling the lower swash plate in place of hydraulics?

The main rotors appear to attach and feather/flap/lead-lag through the use a flex beam and pitch case setup a bit like the MD902 (one of the smoothest helicopters out there).

206 jock 17th Aug 2023 06:34


Originally Posted by Agile (Post 11486117)

For a helicopter that is due to be flying in 4 months time, that's a lovely render of something that isn't built yet.

Agile 17th Aug 2023 09:20

I know there is logic for everything, but I am not so excited about the mixing unit in the elements at the rotor head, and push-pull cable controls for a single hydraulic craft.

hargreaves99 17th Aug 2023 09:47

from facebook

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7a04ce5d43.png

hargreaves99 17th Aug 2023 09:48

over 900 orders placed so far.

some questions at the end, nobody asked "when will it fly?". very odd.




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