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[email protected] 14th Aug 2019 07:44


Trust the users of PPRuNe to find something negative about something like this https://www.pprune.org/images/smilie...n_rolleyes.gif
or perhaps shining a light on a PR exercise from a company looking to reduce its cost base?

rotormonkey 14th Aug 2019 08:00

Bristow Full Sponsorship
 
Sounds great.

My top tip for anyone going down this route, or any other path to the offshore flying world would be to get your PPL(A) in your back pocket and crunch through the ATPL(A) theory before you need it.

Think of it as an insurance policy.

RM

ersa 14th Aug 2019 09:39


Originally Posted by heli87 (Post 10544655)
After applying for their IR sponsorship programme I received an email back saying

“For your information the selection day has been confirmed as Tuesday 10
th
September 2019 at Castle Air Academy, Gloucester Airport (www.castleairacademy.com ) “

any idea what they mean by selection day?


More than likely be an assessment day , and possible have a go in the SIM, to assess your ability

FC80 14th Aug 2019 13:09


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 10544576)
or perhaps shining a light on a PR exercise from a company looking to reduce its cost base?

Yes, thank goodness for the perspicacity of these blessed few visionaries exposing the corporate evil intent behind a full CPL/IR sponsorship scheme.

:hmm:

Chris the Robot 14th Aug 2019 14:12

On the face of things it looks like a very good program, though no doubt we'll find out more as things progress.

[email protected] 14th Aug 2019 15:01

FC80 - you and some others are glass-half-full - I and some others are glass-half-empty - I for one am long enough in the tooth not to believe glossy brochures and sales pitch.:ok:

Same again 14th Aug 2019 15:33

There are plenty of good pilots around the industry in senior training and managerial positions (some still with Bristow) who are products of the Bristow sponsored training scheme. Good to see it back again.

paco 14th Aug 2019 15:41

Just to clarify - it would appear that there are two schemes (as Variable Load says) - one which requires a PPL and one which doesn't - but that is administered by Helicentre on behalf of Bristow.

Bravo73 14th Aug 2019 16:04


Originally Posted by berlioz (Post 10544531)
Bristow has been doing some career days invitations to pilots. I can say i´ve been to one. (never got any feedback after)

I’m sorry to say it but if you’ve been to one of their recruitment days and you haven’t heard back, regardless of how experienced and qualified that you might be, then maybe you aren’t the sort of employee that they are looking for.

Bravo73 14th Aug 2019 16:10


Originally Posted by ersa (Post 10544682)
More than likely be an assessment day , and possible have a go in the SIM, to assess your ability

Yep, expect aptitude tests, ‘team building’ exercises, interviews (with and without a shrink) and a sim check. Do a search on here for Oxford/Bond tests.

If you are serious about this, you will be very well served by paying a visit to Staverton ASAP.

berlioz 15th Aug 2019 05:43


Originally Posted by Same again (Post 10545015)
There are plenty of good pilots around the industry in senior training and managerial positions (some still with Bristow) who are products of the Bristow sponsored training scheme. Good to see it back again.

Probably the times were different.

Probably in those days there were no helicopter pilots with IR in the market. And companies had to sponsor, nowadays its different.

Like someone said here in this thread im a "half empty glass" kind of guy, and i´ve been around time enough to realise that big corporations are all about business and profit for share-holders.

But saying that i really wish the best o luck for those that are fortunate/skilled enough to be selected to this sponsorship. And definitely if you aspire a better job.....IR is essential.


berlioz 15th Aug 2019 05:47


Originally Posted by Bravo73 (Post 10545040)


I’m sorry to say it but if you’ve been to one of their recruitment days and you haven’t heard back, regardless of how experienced and qualified that you might be, then maybe you aren’t the sort of employee that they are looking for.

Totally agree, but still if you go and spend your own money and time to attend one of this career days (My residence is not in the UK ;-) ).....you would expect a email....saying "thank you, don´t call us we will call you".

Safe landings

Bravo73 15th Aug 2019 07:22


Originally Posted by berlioz (Post 10545520)
you would expect a email....saying "thank you, don´t call us we will call you".

Indeed. It’s very poor form if you didn’t hear anything back at all.

However busy that they think that they might be, HR departments can be very short-sighted at times.

helimutt 15th Aug 2019 10:02

So one thread is stating that Bristow will have 24 aircraft repossessed in various countries, yet they believe its a good idea to take on sponsored co-pilots??? There are many pilots with experience who would gladly take up work but Bristow must think they are too expensive. Got to keep those shareholders happy eh? Any company that cant even be bothered to respond, don't deserve attention. Bristow were, and still seem to be the worst helicopter company in business right now. In business for how much longer I wonder?

sudden twang 15th Aug 2019 13:38

HP courses certainly produced many senior managers/trainers.
Could the advantage be about a government apprenticeship?

Same again 15th Aug 2019 14:47

If you select and train your own pilots then you generally have no issues with them. Problems arise when you take on pilots who look good on paper but turn out to be poorly trained or have 'personality' issues. Occassionally due to a pressing need for bums on seats Bristow have taken on some of these even when cautioned by previous employers or employees and have regretted it.

Nigerian Expat Outlaw 15th Aug 2019 17:00


Originally Posted by Same again (Post 10545930)
If you select and train your own pilots then you generally have no issues with them. Problems arise when you take on pilots who look good on paper but turn out to be poorly trained or have 'personality' issues. Occassionally due to a pressing need for bums on seats Bristow have taken on some of these even when cautioned by previous employers or employees and have regretted it.

I distinctly remember many graduates of HP courses breaking their training bonds and going off to other companies. Many Nigerians just left and stayed in the UK pursuing other careers, having used the HP admission to gain a visa. Never heard of any of them being sued to repay their bond. That said, a good number went on to successful careers.

Fully agree on the recruitment of sub stadard pilots just to fill seats who end up costing the company dear one way or another.

NEO

ersa 15th Aug 2019 22:02


Originally Posted by Same again (Post 10545930)
If you select and train your own pilots then you generally have no issues with them. Problems arise when you take on pilots who look good on paper but turn out to be poorly trained or have 'personality' issues. Occassionally due to a pressing need for bums on seats Bristow have taken on some of these even when cautioned by previous employers or employees and have regretted it.

Eventually those carefully selected and train pilots , wake up to the bull**** at some stage

HeliComparator 16th Aug 2019 17:04


Originally Posted by Same again (Post 10545930)
If you select and train your own pilots then you generally have no issues with them. Problems arise when you take on pilots who look good on paper but turn out to be poorly trained or have 'personality' issues. Occassionally due to a pressing need for bums on seats Bristow have taken on some of these even when cautioned by previous employers or employees and have regretted it.

Exactly so. And during the boom years of 2012-2013 I recall a trail of people waving CPL(H)/IRs at Bristow but under interview and practical test in the sim, many were either a bit odd or couldn’t really fly. These HP type courses means people are selected on ability, not on ability to pay a lot of money for a licence, and in the long term that is much better for the company.

212man 16th Aug 2019 18:18


These HP type courses means people are selected on ability, not on ability to pay a lot of money for a licence, and in the long term that is much better for the compan
​​​​​​​plus a reasonable chop rate to ensure a quality output.


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