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vaqueroaero 13th Jun 2019 11:13

AW 139 Hard Landing in Spain.
 
Surprised this isn't here already. It appears that a Babcock SAR 139 in Spain had an engine failure due to turbulence. An auto rotation was carried out resulting in a hard landing........

Incident AgustaWestland AW139 EC-NEH, 12 Jun 2019


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9f43aa97e6.jpg

SASless 13th Jun 2019 11:38

I suppose the question to be asked is why could the aircraft not maintain flight OEI to the extent the pilot determined the required action to be an autorotation?


The followup question is why would turbulence cause an engine failure?

[email protected] 13th Jun 2019 11:40

Yes, something doesn't ring true here.

Maybe their 30% pay cut had something to do with it:E

SASless 13th Jun 2019 11:47

You get what you pay for I reckon!

nomorehelosforme 13th Jun 2019 11:51

Payback is a bitch!

gulliBell 13th Jun 2019 12:18

Well, there goes another 30% pay cut to pay for the repair.

malabo 13th Jun 2019 13:36

Alicante to Gijon is a ways, over 400 miles assuming no diversions or wx/headwinds. Wonder what his plan was after the low fuel lights came on?

ahh, scratch that, Albarracin is about halfway, shouldn’t have been a fuel problem yet.

Salusa 13th Jun 2019 18:03

Apparantly both engines flamed out when aircraft went into 90 degree bank "due to turbulence".

noooby 13th Jun 2019 19:32

You'd have to sustain negative G for a wee while to cause both engines to flame out.

I'd be looking at some other reason for fuel not getting to the engines.

FDR readout should be interesting.

industry insider 14th Jun 2019 03:15

From the report:

Occupants 1 ??

[email protected] 14th Jun 2019 05:57

The 139 can be SP or MP

Non-PC Plod 14th Jun 2019 08:12

In one of the reports, it said 1 x pilot and 1 x passenger

Phoinix 14th Jun 2019 08:52

Perhaps the pilot's side window, that was sucked inside, caused some issues with the overhead throttles?

AnFI 14th Jun 2019 21:35


Originally Posted by Salusa (Post 10493094)
Apparantly both engines flamed out when aircraft went into 90 degree bank "due to turbulence".

BOTH engines !!!! Again? Surely not possible, at least it's not over a hostile congested area :rolleyes:

ShyTorque 14th Jun 2019 21:45

Looks like someone let the groundhog out.

AnFI 14th Jun 2019 21:57

damned rude

DOUBLE BOGEY 15th Jun 2019 08:15

ANFI you are making a very good point. This simply should not happen to MEH!! As your sarcasm alludes to, fuel starvation of any kind rather defeats the advantages of having more than 1 engine.
It will be really interesting to understand how this one has happened. I cant see turbulence causing a double flameout. Surely the pressure fuel in the feed line from the boost pump to the engine would last several seconds even if the boost pumps starts to cavitate!!
But with Clutha, now this one, ANFI, your arguments gather some momentum!

lobby 15th Jun 2019 08:52

Thank god they had a life raft.

gulliBell 15th Jun 2019 11:27

He picked a good spot to aim for. Too bad the bit at the bottom didn't go quite to plan. Off to the sim for some practice.

hueyracer 15th Jun 2019 18:48

Guys,

Running out of fuel in most (though not all) multi engine helicopter leads to a failure of one engine only...

The second engine will continue to operate for a few more minutes....

This is due to the way the fuel tanks are arranged...


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