Originally Posted by Beafer
(Post 10355318)
It might be an idea to give each Lord a high viz vest and camping chair. They could then be dropped off at the perimeter fences at Gatwick and Heathrow airports. It would be one way to earn the £300 per day which they currently receive off the tax payers!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ards-work.html |
Originally Posted by timex
(Post 10354738)
I was told recently that it’s almost double that number, not including others who are unhappy and may be jumping ship.. |
Net guns!! don't our antipodean members have form Wazzing around low level in 500s with doors off, could be what the lady was thinking :suspect: |
You don't need a net, just an MD500
oh dear, can't post a facebook link, just google "MD500 downs drone" |
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FFF......
No wonder the country's in the state it is ! Mind blowing far beyond belief ,it's not drones that needing netted . |
Is there a date for the P68 deliveries? Seems like they've been on order for years?
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In service by January 2020, according to this:
https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/..._july_2018.pdf |
Their new hangar will be due for a refurb by then!
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Originally Posted by MightyGem
(Post 10361649)
In service by January 2020, according to this:
https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/..._july_2018.pdf |
That can't be right, can it? |
Originally Posted by 500e
(Post 10355510)
Net guns!! don't our antipodean members have form Wazzing around low level in 500s with doors off, could be what the lady was thinking :suspect: https://youtu.be/bKWvsS-z9PU |
Originally Posted by helimutt
(Post 10354851)
ATPL,IR,MULTI,P1 EXPERIENCE, and they're paying £55k? :D :ouch:
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and 500 hours P1 Can't think why they say that a type rating on MD 902 would qualify someone's NPAS don't have any anymore. |
Babcock have private healthcare insurance (invaluable), loss of licence and many other benefits, including a small annual bonus. That package is worth a few grand. |
Npas pay extra for working bank hols, if you work all 8/9 depending on the year and how your roster falls that's worth a few grand too, or taken as days back into your leave pot plus half cash! Npas also have loss of licence. The pension is far better as well.
The pay however, for ALL the onshore players is disgraceful..(as mentioned above)...two choices available..keep lowering the hours and skill levels, until someone has an accident, or raise the pay significantly to attract and more importantly retain the right pilots. The number of retirements onshore, (and for that matter offshore too) is making big holes in the numbers of pilots available, and also with the fixed wing world booming, and no one in their right mind spending money on a cpl H, the raise in salary is the only thing that will fix the shortage onshore. B. |
Originally Posted by jayteeto
(Post 10364990)
Babcock have private healthcare insurance (invaluable), loss of licence and many other benefits, including a small annual bonus. That package is worth a few grand. Loss of licence - Yes but an inadequate policy for the single pilot Many other benefits - Many? no but some; although much are worthless and difficult to access Small annual bonus - not anymore (unless you're management) However, that aside, they're an awful company to work for, which is why a number of engineers, pilots and support staff appear to be leaving. On a positive note, there are vacancies....! |
It seems that the 2017/18 NPAS Annual Report was published back in December, although there is no sign of it here:
http://npas.police.uk/about-us/npas-annual-reports However, it does appear here over on PANews: http://www.policeaviationnews.info/i...l%20Report.pdf One thing that stands out, or not, is a total lack of the words "fixed wing". Absolutely no mention at all. None whatsoever. Nada. Nil. As usual they make a big thing of their Performance data quoting achieving response times for Priority 1 tasks(on scene within 20mins of lifting) of 96-98% where the target is 85%. However, things aren't all they seem. In 2017/18 they completed 22,410 actioned calls(where they respond to a request and arrive on scene before the request is cancelled) for service and over 16,000 flying hours(although they told me 14,200 back in October). In 2016/17, they completed 26,856 actioned calls, so a drop of 4446, or 16%, with 18,000 hours, so the downward spiral continues. A quote from January's PANews says; "Unfortunately the customers believe they are getting a vastly inferior service." http://www.policeaviationnews.info/i...anuary2019.pdf A bit of an understatement, I think, considering that all Police Forces paid NPAS exactly the same for 2017/18 as they did for 2016/17. |
It was always going to be thus! You simply cannot reduce both the fleet and the bases by over a third, AND get rid of all the enthusiastic and dedicated crews that formed the basic framework of UK Police Air Support, and ever hope to deliver anything like what existed before!
In theory the concept of a national Police Air wing (If delivered Regionally) was a world beater. But once the bean counters - Characters that considered the cost above all else, but knew nothing about the value of anything, took over, the whole idea was going to hell in a handcart! I will never forgive them for that. Its not even as if they weren't warned about what was going to happen. Slash & Burn was their only mantra! TF |
NPAS Boreham have tweeted that they are closing down their Twitter account from January 31 and therefore bringing to an end the fantasy that they represented another base ..... a bit like Doncaster, not much going on their either.
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