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DOUBLE BOGEY 25th Nov 2019 09:17


Originally Posted by Same again (Post 10625779)
Three new HR positions, two accountants and an H&S executive apparently.

HahHa. And probably some truth in it.

Thomas coupling 28th Nov 2019 20:46

Wh is the boss of NPAS currently?

PANews 6th Dec 2019 21:01

New NPAS Website
 
It has taken a while..... a May letter and an Autumn FOI request .. plus of course some editorial comments now and again ... but finally the newly revamped NPAS website again includes the Strategic Board minutes.

If you did not save the originals you are out of luck as the minutes posted are 2018 and early 2019.... September still awaited.... and of course redacted. Some within an inch of their content but mostly just lightly.

Better than nothing methinks.

MaxR 7th Dec 2019 10:49


Originally Posted by PANews (Post 10633996)
Better than nothing methinks.

Is that NPAS's new motto?

tigerfish 7th Dec 2019 23:13

NPAS has been the the greatest disaster since the flood! By 2008 UK Police Aviation was the best and most advanced in the world. Then came along the Chief of Liverpool, Hogan How, who suggested that it could be done for far less money!

NPAS was formulated,. Not to increase officiency but purely to save money! I fought hard against it saying that the only criteria should be to increase effectiveness not to save money! NPAS was theoretically correct, but only if administered regionally, NOT from West Yorkshire!

I was sacked by my employer because I had made my views clear, but they have since all been proved to be correct!

A National Police Air Service is the correct way forward, but its mantra must be efficiency AND effectiveness, using the best and most well trained staff, using the latest equipment against the common criminal. Regional delivery not National, is essential!

NPAS was never going to succeed, it was born out of a flawed concept! In aviation only the best and the right way is the way forward.

Its time to put NPAS Mk 1 out of its misery! Roll on Mk2!

TF

MightyGem 8th Dec 2019 05:21

We all knew it would go that way, but would they listen? “More effective and more efficient”.

MightyGem 20th Dec 2019 20:41

Don't often see an NPAS aircraft these days. Saw two in formation over Warrington today.

OvertHawk 21st Dec 2019 07:02


Originally Posted by MightyGem (Post 10644490)
Don't often see an NPAS aircraft these days. Saw two in formation over Warrington today.

MG

Are you sure it was NPAS and not DHFS from Shawbury? They have 145s and 135s (Jupiter and Juno to use their mil names) in similar colour schemes to NPAS and are more likely to be doing formation flying.

OH

PANews 21st Dec 2019 08:24


Originally Posted by OvertHawk (Post 10644697)
MG

Are you sure it was NPAS and not DHFS from Shawbury? They have 145s and 135s (Jupiter and Juno to use their mil names) in similar colour schemes to NPAS and are more likely to be doing formation flying.

OH

on recent performance those two aircraft might represent the total NPAS availability on some days.

you can rebuild the systems in a fifteen year old airframe but that does not resolve the maintenance issues! Availability has been challenging.

jumpseater 22nd Dec 2019 22:17

For info, NPAS fixed wing ops commenced earlier this month.

PANews 23rd Dec 2019 10:23

Are those flights by the P68R proving flights or operational flights building up to the promised Operational Flights from January .......

I understand the answer to the future of NPAS is a closed cover report out there for comment. 2020 may therefore see (yet more) changes in how the operation runs itself. All a bit late now no matter what they do. Those knowledgeable individual operations serving the people before 2014 are wrecked and will be difficult to rebuild.

Difficult, not impossible.

ShyTorque 23rd Dec 2019 11:11


Difficult, not impossible.
Sadly, the incredible amount of detailed local knowledge the police observers had (because they had previously patrolled much of their local patch on foot) is probably gone forever.


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