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gulliBell 28th Feb 2013 00:02

I have worked in the Macau operation. It's a good job. The money is OK. You get to go home every night. Plenty of things to keep you occupied in your off time. However, it is true they have a relatively high pilot turn-over. Not everybody fits their mold. They have quite a few pilots who have been there for 10+ years, others don't get to stay very long for various reasons. The management might seem a bit dysfunctional at times but you can say that about a lot of other operations as well. If you are adaptable and good at keeping your mouth shut then Macau is a worthwhile experience. A little boring flying the same routes all the time, but overall it's a pretty good gig.

212man 28th Feb 2013 10:14


And that link confirms that NHV have recently won a contract to operate out of Wick. Remarkable!
Yes, what's that all about? Will the pax fly in FW?

terminus mos 28th Feb 2013 14:36

Must be to extend the legs of the 155 so it can actually get somewhere.

VFRIFR 28th Feb 2013 14:46

Macau
 
gullibell,

So you should be able to tell us why they only except certain licenses ie., Ozzie and Kiwi ATP mainly. Isn't that discriminatory to the rest of us?

Adroight 28th Feb 2013 17:52

They accept JAR licences too. Perhaps it is for the same reason that I cannot fly in USA without an FAA licence, or South Africa without an SA licence. It is not the operator who dictates licence type but the regulatory authority.

Hot_LZ 28th Feb 2013 19:50

Government Flying Service of Hong Kong all get the JAR/EASA ticket before they then convert to HK license.

GoodGrief 28th Feb 2013 20:10

I think what VFRIFR referred to is the fact that other than JAR Australian and NZ tickets are accepted, but not FAA.

hueyracer 28th Feb 2013 20:15

They also accept FAA-tickets....

gulliBell 1st Mar 2013 06:38


Originally Posted by VFRIFR (Post 7719224)
gullibell,

So you should be able to tell us why they only except certain licenses ie., Ozzie and Kiwi ATP mainly. Isn't that discriminatory to the rest of us?

Not true. You need to present your ICAO recognized aircrew licence to Macau AACM for validation. Once your foreign license is validated you jump through the hoops to get a Macau pilot licence (easy). You also need to present your credentials to HK CAD for assessment. They decide what exams you need to take, then competency check with examiner, then apply for HK license (easy, but not as easy as Macau). Ultimately you need to hold Macau and Hong Kong licenses (because the aircraft have mixed registrations). It doesn't matter squat what your native license is.

GoodGrief 1st Mar 2013 07:43

Point taken.
Why does the add discriminate then? ICAO or FAA specifically not mentioned.

"Holder of an unconverted Airline Transport Pilot License (Helicopter) issued by JAR, Hong Kong, Australia or New Zealand."

gulliBell 1st Mar 2013 10:54

I wouldn't call it discrimination, "preference" is probably a better word. I'm not associated with the Company and I have no idea why they have expressed it the way they have. It might be the case that, historically, applicants with those licenses have negotiated the AACM/HKCAD processes more readily than those who don't. But certainly they have hired pilots with native licenses not mentioned, as well as pilots with less experience than mentioned.

I used to work for them, and I'd go back to work for them if asked. But they haven't asked and nor are they likely to (they tend not to re-hire former staff as a matter of Company policy). So if anybody is considering applying, even if you're slightly underdone on the experience they are looking for, there is no harm in applying. They do have a lot of flexibility who they can hire because they arbitrarily set their own requirements (i.e. they aren't playing to the tune of any clients: remember they hired a whole stack of cadet pilots with zero experience, sent them to Australia and elsewhere to do their CPL and IR, and put them on as co-pilots with probably 150 hours total time).

ka26 1st Mar 2013 13:12

Macau
 
Is there any possibility to be hired as an AW139 copilot without an IR?

gulliBell 1st Mar 2013 13:57

...most unlikely I'm afraid...in my time there I only recall one pilot being hired without an IR, and he had to get his eventually (I can't recall if the Company sponsored him or he paid for it himself). There have probably been others.

I can assure you it gets pretty black over the South China Sea at night, hence why the IR is essential (plus the viz during the day is ****e much of the time due to industrial air pollution which is endemic to the greater Pearl River Delta, and much of China for that matter).

Michel GAY 1st Mar 2013 16:36

Macao
 
Hello everybody I'm intersted by this job but I would like anwsers about this company and the quality of life, the salary and the rest.

i have a CPL IR with the ATPL theorical and more than 700 hrs on offshore.

Do you have some contacts or perhaps someone in this company for me???

Thanks :ok:

DauphinDude 1st Mar 2013 17:21

They can prefer whatever they like. The Hong Kong SAR pilots (GFS) all go to Britain for their training and get their JAR. I suppose it is because of the superior ground studies you have to go through. FAA ticket donīt convert easily to HKCAD. To go to EASA you still need to sit the 14 exams. Almost same thing. It has to do with the historical relationship with Britain.

I know one who was recently employed by them and while you do log a lot of hours, it is not a good career choice. Among the reasons are the inability to log PICUS, and you are not gonna get the bump to command unless you get PIC hours in another country. It is not very well payed either.

400hover 5th Mar 2013 12:00

recruiters
 
I use to see a lot of agencies and recruiters...

I have some doubts about them. If they recruit us for a company, who will our "boss"? The agency or the company?

I have watched Zenon, and they use to have always or most of the time helicopter positions.

If we are recruited by them, what is our bond with them??

hueyracer 5th Mar 2013 13:27

How long have you been in the helicopter business?

These "recruiting agencies" are just sorting out the cvīs-only forwarding the promising ones to the Helicopter company that is looking for pilots....

Thatīs it..
You will be hired by the helicopter company-NOT the recruiting agency.

JAA/FAA Pilot 5th Mar 2013 14:15

As for Zenon and West Africa...Zenon handeld everything from recruiting to negotiating and offering a contract.
According to the contract, they were also in charge to handle the salary once they would receive the funds from the operator :eek: which was the point for me to take another option.
So, there was a lot more than just sorting out CV's.

Adroight 5th Mar 2013 19:33

You must be the only pilot I know who actually received a reply from Zenon.

EESDL 6th Mar 2013 14:35

Blimey - so many jobs!
 
Never seen the media so full of jobs for helos, whether or not you speak German and like to sit at Battersea or want to trail winchman (or winchlady) around the sky? I realise these might not be 'newbie' positions but encouraging news none the less.


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