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jimf671 16th Sep 2013 00:09


Originally Posted by ropedope (Post 8049390)
Could anyone tell me what will happen to the Scottish SAR bases if Scotland votes for independence?

Why would anything happen dope?

(You don't happen to work for the Daily Mail in your spare time do you?)

ropedope 16th Sep 2013 05:57

I believe the contract to provide SAR cover is with the UK government and not a Scottish one. If Scotland is no longer part of the UK how can that contract stand.
No I don't work for the mail.

jimf671 16th Sep 2013 09:57

So what.

The same happens as always happens when countries divide and borders change. It happens all the time.

farsouth 16th Sep 2013 11:47


The same happens as always happens when countries divide and borders change. It happens all the time.
I think maybe ropedope (and I) are not as familiar as you with what happens "all the time" - maybe you could enlighten us as to what the likely outcome would be.

I guess that the contract for the Scottish bases would terminate, and that government of the newly independent Scotland would decide on their own requirements and go out to tender, but I know very little about these things, as I have not seen them happen all the time.

ropedope 16th Sep 2013 12:25

Thanks Farsouth,:ok: you hit the nail on the head. Politicians are not telling us, so I sought an answer from a wider audience.

Manchester 16th Sep 2013 15:28

Politicians don't tell you to breathe in and out, so suggest you desist with immediate effect, at least until you've polled a wider audience

[email protected] 16th Sep 2013 15:55

if the Scots vote for independence, I think the provision of SAR in their SRR will be the least of their financial and structural worries;)

Having that unctuous toad as a Prime Minister in charge of a whole independent country rather than as a budget manager is a horrifying thought!

3D CAM 16th Sep 2013 16:14

Blimey Crab, don't beat about the bush! :D
3D

nowherespecial 16th Sep 2013 16:26

RAF SAR Pilots jumping to Bristow
 
Does anyone know if any of the SAR drivers from the Air Force have applied for jobs at Bristow under the TUPE employment law.

For those of you who don't know (I read it a year ago in a totally different context to Aviation), the Transfer of Undertakings for Protection of Employment law in the UK mandates that if a role is transferred from one contract to another, the person occupying it has the right to a job in the new entity at no worse than their original T&Cs.

It's a long shot but as the Govt is getting shot of SAR, I don't see any reason why they would object to TUPE applying?

Acas - Transfer of undertakings (TUPE)

Just a thought?

snakepit 17th Sep 2013 07:55

Nowherespecial

Wow for

just a thought
you really didn't put much "thought" into that post! Factual errors, omissions and a link that disproves your own thought!

Outstanding :D

jimf671 17th Sep 2013 14:17


Originally Posted by farsouth (Post 8050435)
I think maybe ropedope (and I) are not as familiar as you with what happens "all the time" - maybe you could enlighten us as to what the likely outcome would be.

The following neighbouring SRR belong to countries that have split from others during the last 110 years.

Iceland
Ireland
Norway

The following countries within the EU family have experienced major changes in boundaries or self-government during the last 30 years.

Croatia
Czechia
Estonia
Germany
Latvia
Lithuania
Slovakia
Slovenia



Originally Posted by farsouth (Post 8050435)
I guess that the contract for the Scottish bases would terminate, ...

Really? Only the Scottish ones? That is the not rooted in fact though is it? The current contract is with an organisation that will cease to exist.

In practice, all countries in these circumstances, regardless of a mass of inconvenient facts, take a pragmatic line of least resistance because there is simply far too much to do.

There is no room for a contractor that makes waves. Head down and play along. A hurried nationalisation does not help asset value and future earnings.

Keke Napep 19th Sep 2013 10:31

Well it's good to see that everyone in the Bristow senior management hierarchy is always right up to date with senior personnel changes as evidenced from yet another announcement about management changes:


.........
- Ian Taylor is appointed Quality and Safety Manager – UK SAR. In this role Ian will report to Grant Ireland, Head of Global Quality Assurance and Safety. Ian will also have a matrix reporting line into the Accountable Manager, Mike Imlach, and also to Sam Willenbacher.........



Please join me in wishing everyone in the UK SAR team and key support areas every success in their new roles and responsibilities.

Mike Imlach, Director of European Operations

Sam Willenbacher, Director, UK SAR


Posted 17-Sep-2013 22:03:43 WAT
I'm sure Ian Taylor will love that as Grant Ireland left in June :E


Dear All,
Jon Stripling and Grant Ireland have separatelysubmitted their resignations effective June 21, 2013.
I'm sure that Grant Ireland, who is now reported to be working for former Bristow Senior VP, Richard Burman will be delighted to get all the news of his old employers :E .
Richard Burman, after his unexpectedly rapid departure from Bristow was subsequently appointmented as CEO of Portuguese company Omni Helicopters International who are expanding in Brazil and will provide strong competition to Bristow affiliate Lider Aviacao

anotherpruner 19th Sep 2013 21:36

UK SAR 2013 privatisation: the new thread
 
:(

Anotherpruner,

We have received your application for the position of WINCH OPERATOR-EBU00408. After careful consideration, we regret to inform you that you have not been selected for this position.

We will retain your candidate profile in our database and will inform you of job openings that match your profile if you selected this option. We also invite you to visit the Career Section on our Web site on a regular basis.

We thank you for your interest in Bristow Group Inc. and wish you all the best in your career.

Best regards,
Human Resources Department
Bristow Group Inc.



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Helimed24 22nd Sep 2013 19:55

Anotherpruner,

We have received your application for the position of WINCH OPERATOR-EBU00408. After careful consideration, we regret to inform you that you have not been selected for this position.

We will retain your candidate profile in our database and will inform you of job openings that match your profile if you selected this option. We also invite you to visit the Career Section on our Web site on a regular basis.

We thank you for your interest in Bristow Group Inc. and wish you all the best in your career.

Best regards,
Human Resources Department
Bristow Group Inc.



Replies to this message are undeliverable and will not reach the Human Resources Department. Please do not reply.


SNAP :{:{

jimf671 23rd Sep 2013 15:04

Sam(antha) Willenbacher, Director, UK SAR, Bristow.

Former Director at Bristow Academy and former LSE Administrator.

So, training, regulations, contracts: tick the box.


Boats?
Rigs?
Mountains?
UK north of Watford?

hot_spud 23rd Sep 2013 16:34

Go on Jim. Please explain. I'm half in the know but need to know more (vested interest). Interested if you'd expand your last post. Ta.

satsuma 23rd Sep 2013 16:50

Is that London School of Economics or London Stock Exchange? I'm sure both will come in very handy. :hmm:

Flounder 23rd Sep 2013 18:31

Jim, as Sam Willenbacher is based in Aberdeen you should take the opportunity to meet her before you make assumptions about her ability to do her job.

So far Sam has been very keen to immerse herself in all aspects of the business (don't think of SAR as a national treasure, it is a business now like it or not) and has impressed many of the people who are actually working in SAR rather than interested parties observing from the sidelines muck spreading.

jimf671 23rd Sep 2013 19:19

Steady there. Just asking.

Many of the key players are pretty open-book (such as a well-furnished linkedin page or similar). Sam Willenbacher: not seen.


(And yes, I know it's a business. I have had CivSAR aircraft hovering over me many times during the last 25 years. Industrially, I have signed-off a few invoices for helicopters so that gives one a firm idea of the business angle.)

backtothebeat 23rd Sep 2013 19:59

UK SAR 2013 privatisation: the new thread
 
So do we know if there is any chance of feedback for those rejected for the crew roles at Bristows... ?


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