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winchop 13th Apr 2013 13:16

UK SAR 2013 privatisation: the new thread
 
Yes, new additions to the Crewman patter....'chicken or beef, chicken or beef!'

jimf671 13th Apr 2013 13:26

Tell him you have questions about the Welsh version of the safety brief for Caernarfon, the Kernow version for Newquay and the Gaelic version for Stornoway. That should keep him out of the way for a bit.

snaggletooth 13th Apr 2013 14:59


The good news is that the CAA have indeed allocated an individual to oversee Rear Crew standards.
The bad news is he is also the CAA Chief Cabin Crew Safety Inspector. His background is as a flight attendant with no Rear Crew helicopter experience.
Dear God, please tell me that is a wind up?!?! Have these people really so little understanding of the nature of SAR? Aghast! :ugh:

snakepit 13th Apr 2013 15:36

UK SAR 2013 privatisation: the new thread
 
No it's not. So for those who wish for CAA oversight. Be careful what you wish for

NRDK 13th Apr 2013 18:11

CAA Vs rear crew
 
Snaggle

Sorry no wind up, tis true:{ But if you feel so highly qualified perhaps you and One Square can apply for a position with them and oversee what has been happening quite well for 25+ years. OSM isn't really welcome in the new SAR picture if indeed he is even remotely qualified to apply.:ok:

queueaitcheye 13th Apr 2013 18:52

Nicely put NRDK. The current system works and doesn't require any ex-mil self-serving input!

snaggletooth 13th Apr 2013 19:21

queueaitcheye, an interesting point. Without us how will you man UK SAR? I try to be inclusive and judge people objectively on their merits. Try it one day. Just for a laugh.

queueaitcheye 13th Apr 2013 19:33

Mil input is fine and most welcome. It is the agenda-pushing that is distasteful.

snaggletooth 13th Apr 2013 20:18

I have no agenda. I just think it makes sense for SAR helicopter rearcrew to be overseen by someone with experience of that role. If they have no experience they have no credibility, n'est ce que pas?

snakepit 13th Apr 2013 20:43

Snaggle

The reason you are linked with OSM is that you too seem to suggest that civi (mostly ex mil) rearcrew need some form of validation that only you or he (or a trolly dolly from the CAA) can provide.

Just maybe thats the agenda that queueaitcheye is referring to?


I try to be inclusive and judge people objectively on their merits. Try it one day. Just for a laugh.
I think you and a few others on this thread could do with a dose of your own medicine.

You are needed and will I am sure be welcome if thats where you want your career to go. Just be inclusive of the organisation that you might (MIGHT) be trying to join!

SeaKingDriver 13th Apr 2013 21:01

Miles Gustaph, could you offer any further insight into the content of the roadshow for us?

Many thanks :ok:

SKD

212man 13th Apr 2013 21:10

Miles,
Somehow your post ended up in the wrong thread. You posted in the grown up, facts only, corporate knowledge based discussion but instead it ended up in the hysterical, wild ignorance based opinion, Daily Mail letters-esque thread.

Nice post though! :ok:

snakepit 13th Apr 2013 21:21

UK SAR 2013 privatisation: the new thread
 
212man
Humour? And a suggestion of facts? That's not allowed, wash your mouth out

meanttobe 13th Apr 2013 21:36

As already stated maybe contributors should educate themselves. I added the BRS PowerPoint link and webcast link in the hope that interested would so just that . However it never ceases to amazes me how this thread can turn into pure BS. In some case some of the contributors only prove that they will not or cannot accept civil SAR but will still try and get a job when the the time comes. It's too small a world .

In relation to SAR crew external validation some of their skills sets may be receive external validation and auditing from the NHS / HPC .

212man 13th Apr 2013 21:45

This thread would be humorous if it wasn't so full of ill-informed crassness.

212man 13th Apr 2013 21:48

Meanttobe, thanks for the links - I wish more had followed them! You're comments about how small a world it is are probably lost on some.......!

meanttobe 13th Apr 2013 21:59

212 agree completely its lost on some. But not lost on the people who have being following this and the original SAR H thread over the years . I'd go as far as saying some of the contributors and their comments may have changed the entire rational about filling the bases with personal directly from the Raf and RN.

212man 13th Apr 2013 22:05

Quite! There are some individuals who have written themselves (literally) out of the equation. Some have gone very quiet of late.......

llamaman 13th Apr 2013 22:10


I'd go as far as saying some of the contributors and their comments may have changed the entire rational about filling the bases with personal directly from the Raf and RN.
Somehow I doubt that Bristow's recruitment strategy will be massively affected by what is posted (anonymously) within this forum. For every dim-witted opinion expressed within these pages there are plenty more that are worthy of merit. Bristow will recruit whom they need to fill seats with enough experience to make it all work. Some of them will be ex-military, some won't.

212man 14th Apr 2013 00:12

What, you think the recruitment strategy will be HR based? You honestly think they will recruit 100 pilots for a SAR contract on anything other than a client based requirement? Gap-SAR will be a test, I think, based on other stakeholders demands.....


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