Why are you all on here bickering. Surely you should be working on your CVs???? Its over - Bristows 1 - Military 0
I agree with 212Man - Never has so much ****e been talked by so few, for so little progress!!! SAR - Navigating, Searching, Hovering and Hoisting. Is it really all that difficult?? Go Bristows!! The Inventers of SAR!! |
HC
Yes, and is it any wonder that civvy companies regard recruitment from the military as high risk (except for Bond of course!)? |
Originally Posted by llamaman
(Post 7782873)
HC
You seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder regarding ... |
SAR - Navigating, Searching, Hovering and Hoisting. Is it really all that difficult?? |
"taught RN SAR NVD"
Might have to pull you up on that one crab .... Mk4 SK operating NVG since 1982 and it was Junglie NVGIs that passed on that expertise to our SAR brethren .... |
Junglie beefer.
Let me see now, I was on hold over as a stude with 826 sqdn (wessex5) Culdrose in august '79 and recall flying in the back of a SK with some crabs flying who were learning low level night navex on NVG. It was the NFSF doing the teaching (either TL or SP). By george I think the RN were already fiddling with NVD way back then even...spiffing. |
DB
SAR - Navigating, Searching, Hovering and Hoisting. Is it really all that difficult?? When the visibility is poor, the cloudbase is low, the freezing level is low and there is lightning forecast a deputation troops up to the Senior pilot to suggest you all stay in the Ops room. This is when it gets more challenging and difficult for an SAR crew as they operate in these conditions so yes it can be really that difficult:eek: Go Bristows!! The Inventers of SAR!! HF |
It is astounding how some people think they can just state things like
"taught RN SAR NVD" and think that they become true! My @rse taught by the crabs!! |
This thread is in the gutter.
I am almost tempted to retract my application. Working surrounded this horrendous chat would drive me to distraction. |
Humming frog. Thank you for the lesson in Ops Despatch. I have the utmost respect for the SAR crews but was being a bit naughty. Of course all kinds of flying is easy when we are well trained and the kit is good and serviceable.
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This thread is in the gutter |
Tourist - so who did convert and train the NVGIs at Gannet then????Not the RN;)
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You seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder regarding military aircrew, I wonder why? If military guys are such high risk it doesn't make sense to me that everyone I know who has left in recent years has secured employment with quality aviation employers all round the world. I agree, it's a different mindset but the vast majority of them make the transition smoothly and have plenty to offer. Bristow will no doubt utilise some of the expertise currently residing within military SAR, to not do so would be high risk indeed. |
HC
not very good at CRM and always want to buck the system With the risk of actually getting the thread back on track are there any thoughts on the new basing solution? |
TC
Culdrose in august '79 and recall flying in the back of a SK |
Sadly, you get them in all areas of aviation. If only there was a system of interviewing/psychometric testing that could weed them out, we'd all be better off! With the risk of actually getting the thread back on track are there any thoughts on the new basing solution? |
Llamaman: OK new bases:
Pro's: No MoD landlord to worry about. No mixed airspace to squabble over. Build what you like and never worry about a 2nd hand nissen hut with corrugated roofing and no heating. Can move quickly if the situation changes. Con's: Can't IFR home (I follow roads). Can't grub beneath the cloud base and make landfall - CAA watching! This means for those sites which don't have recovery aids, the cab could be out of position until the weather clears. Might need their own security precautions - which is costly. overall - civvy bases are best. |
HC
tendency to want to point-score all the time, as is being well demonstrated in this thread. It does seem to be something in the mil psyche, |
Originally Posted by DOUBLE BOGEY
(Post 7782764)
SAR - Navigating, Searching, Hovering and Hoisting. Is it really all that difficult?? Go Bristows!! The Inventers of SAR!! RN SAR 60 Mess Dinner. :hmm: :p |
I envy the Bristow set-up where a properly-resourced training team will be able to train people in new aircraft at locations which don't have two circuit embargoes a day for display aircraft to practice, where fuel bowsers aren't delayed every time because they can't cross the runway, where every other IF approach isn't broken off due to yet another Darth Vader running short of go-juice, where the only serviceable aircraft isn't requisitioned for a whole day for a spotters' photo-shoot etc etc. The future's bright and it's not yellow! |
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