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enstrompilot 28th Apr 2013 21:53

Allouete 2 - lama
 
Hi

I have EASA reg al2 in uk

Can bring along for the course to poke at if that is any help

Based in south uk

Ian

C-Zico 29th Apr 2013 18:29

Here's a picture I took in Switzerland in March

http://helixo.weebly.com/uploads/3/9...72370_orig.jpg

Bcopters500 1st May 2013 00:15

Denali Lama
 
:{Cascade ,Idaho was my last fire season with this machine(Denali Lama) and it showed up to HAI and it recieved a 25 hour inspection after the show at my other job and then EVERGREEN go bye bye!

African Eagle 1st May 2013 20:27

C-Zico, its a nice photo. :D

It would be nice to see any more from other Lama operations around the world.

Savoia 2nd May 2013 14:54


Idaho was my last fire season with this machine (Denali Lama).
Yes well, there is the Dalai Lama .. and then there was the Denali Lama!

Mount Denali - (aka Mount McKinley)
Location: 63.0694° N, 151.0072° W
Elevation: 20,320 ft.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--..._alpenglow.jpg
Mount Denali at sunset

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...enali+Lama.jpg
The Denali Lama (or at least one of them) within the Mt. Denali environs

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g...Matt+Steen.jpg
The Denali Lama evacuates Claude Ratte and one other injured climber from 14 Camp, West Buttress (Photo: Matt Steen)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...500-h331/s.jpg
One of the Denali Lama drivers

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G.../Mt+Denali.jpg
Mt. Denali in flight

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...enali+Lama.png
The Denali 'Rescue' Lama

Perhaps there are others with some more shots from Evergreen's days running this contract.

Heli-Union 6th May 2013 10:46

Encore des photos d'altitude plus hautes

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8280/8...a09f76da_b.jpg

Himalayan Heli Services (India) VT-WEX SA315B Lama

ericferret 12th May 2013 15:14

Some Lama shots from 1979, Dollar in Scotland.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7291/8...3dac1626_c.jpg
2013-05-12 (61) by ericferret, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7372/8...ac710870_c.jpg
2013-05-12 (70) by ericferret, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7287/8...67120abc_c.jpg
2013-05-12 (39) by ericferret, on Flickr

About a minute after I took this photo a guy in a Morris Minor with glasses as thick as beer bottle bottoms ignored the guys waving him down and drove under the aircraft which he never saw!!!

EX Dollar hands will recognise the "Great White" parked in the background.

Heli-Union 1st Jul 2013 22:11

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3820/9...5b9f4c54_o.jpg

Grenoble Le Versoud 1998

HeliStudent 5th Jul 2013 09:08

http://www.nordicrotors.com/images_2...splay_3346.jpg

A Lama helicopter in Sweden. Nordic Rotors - SE-JNA

Also a nice Lama at work video.


On the lama instrument panel in the bottom right corner there is a dial to the right of the instrument with the plane on it, can anyone say what this does please?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...no/1162517.jpg

Downupside 5th Jul 2013 09:36

It's a 'Computer'
 
Hi HeliStudent,

It's a circular slide ruler type of computer that surround the collective pitch indicator. With noting the outside air temperature and pressure altitude, the pilot can determine the maximum gross weight at which the outside condition will permit. you can also get from it the maximum pitch setting, actual gross weight (under hovering condition) and density altitude.

I'll try to get a hold on my 35 years old training manual and get you more details.

Very clever at the time.

Cheers
kami

HeliStudent 5th Jul 2013 09:58

Downupside thank you very much, this is really interesting.

There is a company in Japan which flies the Lama - you can see it in the video below, do you know who they are?


Downupside 5th Jul 2013 10:22

you're welcome!

It is Akagi Helicopters.

Actually 2 companies are still flying the Lama: 1 at Toho Air Services and 3 at Akagi Helicopters.
They are switching to B3e so Toho will stop operating next year. Akagi may keep them flying a bit more.

Kami

HeliStudent 5th Jul 2013 10:31

Kami thank you again.

I have found a photo of an Akagi Lama and it has the same green stripe as in the video -

http://images2.jetphotos.net/img/1/3...1305634793.jpg

There is also something I have not seen before - this Japanese Lama has something connecting the landing gear assembly to the back of the skids like a wavy piece of metal or something?

Also it has two sets of mirrors in front, is this for training purposes?

HeliHenri 5th Jul 2013 11:21

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Some very nice pictures (among 350 and Al3) of Air-Glaciers (Swiss) Lamas :ok: :

Le jeu de pales d'Air-Glaciers, par Richard Chapuis - Photos - Le Nouvelliste Online - Quotidien Valaisan


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Heli-Union 6th Jul 2013 08:23

HeliHenri - Merci pour les photos d'Air-Glaciers. :ok:

Elle sont tres belle.


back of the skids like a wavy piece of metal or something?
Is for stop sling cable to touch skids.

Lama spare parts

HeliHenri 6th Jul 2013 12:44

.
De rien HU :ok:

And if I'm not mistaken, Heli-Union was in the good days the biggest civilian Lamas operator in the world !

.

500 Fan 31st Jul 2013 17:07

Does anyone know the rate of descent for the Lama in autorotation? I am trying to figure out how long it took Jean Boulet to come down during his world record "longest-autorotation" in 1972. Thanks.

500 Fan.

Heli-Union 31st Jul 2013 17:34

Ah Jean Boulet - what a great man.

I will try to find information for you on this but what I can say now is that he does not have constant ROD in this flight. To start he will drop very fast and lower altitude he slow down.

Savoia 27th Oct 2013 16:53

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7...Davey%2529.jpg
Heliswiss SA315B Lama cn 2596 HB-XTD as seen at Gruyères, Switzerland on 18th July 2008 (Photo: Andy Davey)


Deeko01 28th Oct 2013 07:59

Lamas
 
Anyone ever know what became of G-LAMA???

Used to work on that one as well as G-BNNF (where is this one now?) which we rebuilt then it's was put on its side in Ireland not long after......MV was not a happy bunny!!

African Eagle 28th Oct 2013 20:47

Are Eurocopter still going to revoke the Lama's type certificate in 2020?

Savoia 11th Nov 2013 17:18

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-j...gaard%2529.jpg
Air Glaciers SA315B Lama HB-XJN, Switzerland, 17th January 2009 (Photo: Soren Lindegaard)

Torque and temp 11th Nov 2013 18:20

Nice post Helistudent!

For those of you Lama guys that missed it in the video thread earlier, here is a short video of the Swedish Lama that was featured in one of Helistudent's photos:


AW_ia_TOR 22nd Nov 2013 08:44

Lama TR
 
Anyone know of or can make a recommendation as to companies offering training on the Lama in Europa or even the US? One of the things I have to do before it is too late.

AWiaTOR

Savoia 22nd Nov 2013 09:04

You may try these to begin with:

Airstar Elicotteri

Air Glaciers

Air Walser

Air Zermatt

Eli Ossola

HelOps

Savoia 23rd Nov 2013 11:37


Originally Posted by 315B (Post 8112152)


..........

Alouette316 3rd Dec 2013 00:31

One of my favorite picture that I took last year :

http://pierregillard.zenfolio.com/im...81040211-3.jpg

Other pictures of Air Walser's Lamas : click here

And another one of Heli Rezia's HB-ZWA :

http://pierregillard.zenfolio.com/im...58841172-3.jpg

More here.

Pierre.

Savoia 12th Dec 2013 09:59

India to deliver two Cheetah helicopters to Afghanistan


According to reports, India will deliver two helicopters to Afghan security forces next month, as part of its support to reconstruct the Afghan national security forces.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5...Helicopter.jpg

Manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited in Bangalore, the Cheetah choppers would be used for reconnaissance purposes, sources quoted by local media agencies said.
Defence News - India to deliver two Cheetah helicopters to Afghanistan

500 Fan 12th Dec 2013 14:37

I wonder if the Indian Cheetahs going to Afghanistan will be new-builds or a pair of machines from the current IAF fleet? Presumably they will be ex-IAF machines.

Going back to the Air Zermatt video (all 1 hour, 24 minutes of it); is the Lama still the airframe of choice for high mountain rescue work with AZ or is the AS350 and EC135 also operated in that role? The AS350 seemed to be in use almost solely as a ramp ornament!:ok:

500 Fan.

helipixman 17th Dec 2013 18:31

G-BNNF and G-LAMA
 
Hi Deeko01


G-BNNF as you mention rolled over at Upper Church,Eire on 30.7.96 and was sold in the USA to Roberts Aircraft Co. becoming N345RA from 6.12.96 to 15.10.98. It was then sold in Costa Rica as TI-AXW.


G-LAMA was cancelled from UK register by PDG on 20.6.08 and as far as I know is stored outside at Marignane. It has never been registered in France so wonder why its been stored for so long ?


Anyway some memory jogger pics for you all G-BNNF and G-LAMA all at Cumbernauld as well as another machine briefly used at Cumbernauld LN-OMU which is now in Sweden as SE-JNA


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3773/1...de1c31b5_z.jpg


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7400/1...90d970de_z.jpg


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/3789/1...a95641dd_z.jpg


http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2868/1...463c1a14_z.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3771/1...51fb9beb_z.jpg

Hedski 18th Dec 2013 15:19

First photo of G-LAMA gets my vote for best colour scheme.

FLY 7 2nd Jan 2014 20:17

AS315B Lama - Just Dreaming, but....
 
.....purely out of academic interest, what would be the pros and cons of buying one of these for mainly private use in the UK? (not withstanding the contradictions in the ad)

Eurocopter SA 315B Lama Private Jet for sale on AvBuyer.com

Nigel Osborn 2nd Jan 2014 22:00

Very nice helicopter to fly.

Bad points.
Expensive to operate, high fuel consumption, no luggage space, slow cruise.

Good points.
Strong, great for sling loads, huge tail rotor so cross winds no problem, reliable engine, good vision, autos quite easy,

I enjoyed flying them but then I didn't own it!

spinwing 3rd Jan 2014 03:02

Mmmmm ....

Exactly as Nigel said ... but he forgot to mention the NOISE ...


(a brilliant bit of kit though) :E

cpt 4th Jan 2014 15:05

hmmmmm spinwing, that's not a "noise", but a song....you can't call a "noise" the melody of an Artouste 3 in a valley or over a jungle...it's unforgetable :)

Remember ?

spinwing 5th Jan 2014 09:37

Mmmmm ...

Ok then, I'll compromise ...

.... we'll put the 'noise' down in both groups as both GOOD and BAD points .. :)

Jungledog 3rd Sep 2014 05:31

SA 315B
 
How many Lama's still operating in the southern hemisphere, and are any on Ag work.

JD:E

fadecdegraded 3rd Sep 2014 05:46

one on Ag just down the road from your place JD, a bloke williams i believe
Ex northland

KiwiNedNZ 3rd Sep 2014 08:10

fadec - you are correct. Lakeview Helicopters at Taupo are operating the one that Jay had at Northland Helicopters.

EMS R22 3rd Sep 2014 08:19

Wonder if they have to still load it in the hover........ :}


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