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Vertical Freedom 15th Aug 2018 00:51

WoW Faktor
 
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Vertical Freedom 16th Aug 2018 04:07

:ugh:

Ascend Charlie 16th Aug 2018 06:30

Errrrk!

What happened there, VF?

And why didn't he dump the lever when he started to turn?

gulliBell 16th Aug 2018 09:25

I'd say it's the shortest helicopter career ever...was it only one flight? It would have been an interesting meeting with the Chief Pilot to explain that one.

Note that the helicopter was rotating clockwise, so lots of TR drive was causing that, not MR torque.

gulliBell 16th Aug 2018 11:47

The fuselage appears to be rotating clockwise to me, if I'm not mistaken the MR spins in a clockwise direction on the AS350, so with my limited understanding of helicopters it seems quite possible that the TR was driving that thing around in circles...roll off the throttle and the TR loses RPM and doesn't have enough oomph to keep the party spinning towards oblivion. Assuming full left pedal had no effect.

chopjock 16th Aug 2018 14:06

I am wondering if the pilot could reach the throttle without letting go the collective lever...

albatross 16th Aug 2018 14:36

Bottom the collective and chop the throttle.

gulliBell 16th Aug 2018 18:11

Well, eventually he bottomed the whole rock show and chopped everything.

Ascend Charlie 16th Aug 2018 18:51

Maybe he tried to lift off without hydraulics - having pulled some lever up to get light, he couldn't put it back down? Pedals then unresponsive? Not smart enough to chop the throttle?

Put a nice Strauss waltz as the soundtrack.

Vertical Freedom 17th Aug 2018 03:36

Waltzing Matilda Rockz
 

Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 10225745)
Put a nice Strauss waltz as the soundtrack.

G'day AC....hmmmm my guess is; the Pilot landed, lowering some lever (not all the way down), & kept the power pedal still applied from the pre landing/arrival R pedal setting, so it started rotating to the right & he got confused & choose to do nothing, just sat there watching frozen/clueless of the impeding crash unfold! Had he just dumped the collective, he’d have been glued to the pad, or fly the picture; stop the turn & maintain position with the shtick; end of story....yer but, yer but, yer but :{
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Hey gulliBell.....Yep, going down; bloody lucky just stopped on the roof than free falling 30 floors down to the ground :eek:
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Hoy albatross.............exactly; it ain't rocket science, we ALL trained for such simple problems (I hope) :D
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Namaste chopjock...............great question, stunned mullet comes to mind, I'm flabbergasted :rolleyes:
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gulliBell 17th Aug 2018 05:26


Originally Posted by Vertical Freedom (Post 10226013)
G'day AC....hmmmm my guess is; the Pilot landed, lowering some lever (not all the way down), & kept the power pedal still applied from the pre landing/arrival R pedal setting, so it started rotating to the right & he got confused & choose to do nothing..

If an explanation for anything could be unbelievable, yet feasible, that would be it. Maybe give him an S76 to drive instead, then he wouldn't have to worry so much about which pedal to push. Just keep both feet off the pedals and let the collective yaw mixer and auto-pilot take care of directional business. Oh, on 2nd thought, disregard that, now that I remember the altitude you need to operate at. You'd be solving one problem and causing another.

Vertical Freedom 19th Aug 2018 02:22

G'day gulliBell...................Mate nuthin' can solve this problem bar grounding :eek:

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Vertical Freedom 21st Aug 2018 14:43

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Vertical Freedom 22nd Aug 2018 02:46

WoW Faktor
 
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Non-PC Plod 22nd Aug 2018 06:54


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 10226042)
If an explanation for anything could be unbelievable, yet feasible, that would be it. Maybe give him an S76 to drive instead, then he wouldn't have to worry so much about which pedal to push. Just keep both feet off the pedals and let the collective yaw mixer and auto-pilot take care of directional business. Oh, on 2nd thought, disregard that, now that I remember the altitude you need to operate at. You'd be solving one problem and causing another.

Perfectly believable to me. Classic startle effect. Some people just freeze like rabbits in the headlights when they are scared. I have had students in the sim, who have crashed with me saying to them " Lower the collective, lower the collective! , LOWER THE COLLECTIVE, LOWER THE COLLECTIVE!!!" Complete failure to respond - brain temporarily shut down.

Vertical Freedom 22nd Aug 2018 07:18

the elusive Bunny faktor
 

Originally Posted by Non-PC Plod (Post 10230291)
Perfectly believable to me. Classic startle effect. Some people just freeze like rabbits in the headlights when they are scared. I have had students in the sim, who have crashed with me saying to them " Lower the collective, lower the collective! , LOWER THE COLLECTIVE, LOWER THE COLLECTIVE!!!" Complete failure to respond - brain temporarily shut down.

By Jiminy NPCP......BINGO :eek: I think You've stumbled on it ole mate? 'the Bunny faktor', making BugsBunny proud even today :ugh:

Vertical Freedom 23rd Aug 2018 01:44

Ready Steady Eddy
 
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ISA+24º :ooh:

fadecdegraded 23rd Aug 2018 04:35

Hey VF why is there no numbers on your mb subscale on the altimeter.????
Can’t see what the QNH is:confused:

Vertical Freedom 23rd Aug 2018 04:39


Originally Posted by fadecdegraded (Post 10231201)
Hey VF why is there no numbers on your mb subscale on the altimeter.????
Can’t see what the QNH is:confused:

I'm equally shocked FD......but, it is there, just can't read it due reflection; that was the real altitude though :8

Flying Bull 24th Aug 2018 11:50

Hi Vertical Freedom,

about beeing shocked...
Fraud with Poison (German articel)

I had to read, that there has been a big fraud, involving eight travel agencies, four hospitals and three helicopter companys in Nepal.
Tourists were poisoned by the travel agents, so that they needed rescue - and the involved got paid by the insurance companys of the victims.......

Do you have more information?

Greetings Flying Bull


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