Sorry RP, but I've NEVER known Shell to fly with HH. Can you back that up with evidence? But you're point is taken!

Thunderstorms most of today in the NL sector, perhaps?! Although actual Tx in the 5min-old METAR and the current landing weather report from ATC doesn't deter some, it seems.

As covered by most of this page, Bristow is supporting Shell in July in DHR, not NWI, so no surprises there.

TorqueStripe

That's 3 more than Dancopter is doing in Den Helder and it isn't even their contract anymore. Also ask the Bristow pilots from yesterday why they were finished at 2200.

Epiphany

Really, down to this kinder garden level? At least my comment wasn't personal and was, like always, fact based. Can't say that at all about your comments which are all pure emotional and biased.

To all:

DC wanted to come out and play with the big boys so they should also walk the walk instead of only talk the talk. Fair. Exactly the same would have been said and announced about Bristow if it was the other way around. Deal with it or DC has to perform in such a fair way that my posts aren't neccessary. In that case I would otherwise only make a fool out of myself like Epiphany is doing.

TorqueStripe

You're right. I was exaggerating. Might wanna add the extra flights for Bristow from yesterday as well, when the DC aircraft apparently also was broken. Doesn't take away the fact that Bristow is still doing more than DC is doing, on their own bloody contract.

Epiphany

You can speculate all you want about my person or background, even with a hilarious :rolleyes: nickname like CoCo the Clown for all I care, but one thing is for sure mate: I got where I want to be. Did you?

Well everyone, given the title of this thread I think it's time we all called it a day and moved on, before this gets too silly.

We all now know that Dancopter was awarded the contract in Norwich and Den Helder, and as expected they weren't ready, and probably won't be for a few more months. Bristow is filling some of the gaps this month, and no doubt someone else will do that in August.

We should wish all the best to the Dancopter crews in the challenging times ahead. A lot has been written here, but there's really nothing more to add as there are no more msyteries.

Mazdadriver
 

I agree. I'll give it a rest. Too many things have been said already in the heat of the moment. I will literally be moving on to bigger things now.

All the best to everyone and hope for DC they can live up to the expectations.

Cheers.

Signing off.

@ Mazdadriver: I believe HH have flown some adhoc flights for shell and if I am right their website also stated they have been audited by Shell.

But all of this is of no importance anyway.
DC is the new Shell-slave. I hope they do well and keep their company as it is, without getting completely influenced by shell.
They are unlucky at the moment because of U/S aircraft and I doubt they have managed to get the proper spares at the bases but give it some time and all will be good.

RP

The important achievement is that the EPE and NAM logistics requirements are still being acheived day in day out:ok:

Shell only use Shell Aircraft approved aircraft and operators:)

Well said SM. Don't forget to mention shell approves different operators at different standards.

RP

There is only one real standard - the Shell Global Aviation Standard:ok:

Its such a valuable document that many ex-Shell employees have carried it on to their next jobs;)

You must be confusing Shell with other oil companies who use and abuse the lesser OGP standard:yuk:

Bull**** SM

I worked on an operation for Shell with one aircraft one pilot and one engineer.
No leave for us over a nine month period.

3 flights a week, then 5 flights a week then two flights on some days.
Then additional flights at weekends.

Eventually the peny dropped and we were restricted to 5 days a week.

The crowning glory was while loading a container some of the content leaked on to my hand.
I was told it was distilled water, after a few seconds my hands began to burn, sulphuric acid.

The effect of this running through the aircraft can be imagined.

Who was responsible for this load, the Shell safety representative!!!!!

Shouldn't really have worried though as they loaded a lead acid battery on it's side a few weeks later and did some serious damage anyway.

Our facilities were no hangar, no running water, no toilet facilities, just a 40 foot shipping container on a piece of tarmac on the apron.

Mind you everything was ok because we were "Shell approved"!!

"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of a lower price"

@ Shell Management; "There is only one real standard - the Shell Global Aviation Standardhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif" <-----:ugh::yuk:

At least you know yourself you're selling Bullsh*t! :D

RP

EPE? Showing your time away from the company there.......

this belongs here

Air Accidents Investigation: Eurocopter EC155B1, OY-HJJ

Why is the Shell standard seem as the "Holy Grail" of safety?

From my experience, and I've flown for many companies over the world, Shell are the worst. I have done audits for several Oil and Gas companies and Shell are the least flexible, it's BLACK and WHITE, even with things that aren't important become an issue. They DON'T promote safety, it's all about the CHEAPEST price, and that's it !!

I used to work in another Oil and Gas industry on contract to Shell, the same applies there, they talk safety but don't follow though, I could give 10's of examples but my time is limited

ITI

Is Shell changing operator to CHC in SNS Norwich and Den Helder, midway in the 5 yr contract?

If so that would be good news for CHC NL. :ok:

1. July CHC will take over the Shell contract, with one 139 in Norwich and two 139 in Den Helder.

That's good for CHC and bad for Dancopter so what will they have left so job cuts for them so grass was not greener on other side !!!

Where's Shell Management?

Hopefully back in the land of Trolls never to be heard of again.

@banksman, the grass was green untill it became yellow;)

Shell is still doing well:
Royal Dutch Shell to buy BG Group in £47bn deal - BBC News

Royal Dutch Shell flag
Royal Dutch Shell says it has agreed to buy oil and gas exploration firm BG Group in a deal that values the business at £47bn.
The two firms say they have reached agreement on a cash and shares offer which gives investors a 50% premium on BG Group's share price on 7 April.
The deal could be one of the biggest of 2015 and could produce a company with a value of more than £200bn ($296bn).
BG Group's shares opened up 42% on the London Stock Exchange to 1,293.5p.
Shell's £177bn market capitalisation dwarfs that of BG, which now stands at £31bn after a 20% fall in its share price over the past year.
BG Group is the UK's third largest energy company. It was created in 1997 when British Gas demerged into two separate companies: BG Group and Centrica.
BG Group took control of exploration and production while Centrica took charge of the UK retail business of the former British Gas. BG currently employs about 5,200 people in 24 countries.
Shell said BG Group shareholders would enjoy higher dividends, as it confirmed its intention to pay its existing shareholders $1.88 per ordinary share this year.
That compares with a dividend of just $0.14 that BG Group shareholders can expect to receive this year.
The oil giant also said it expected to commence a share buyback programme in 2017 of at least $25bn.
And Shell said it would also provide BG Group shareholders with a "mix and match facility", allowing them to vary how much they receive in cash and new Shell shares.
Shell and BG Group expect to make annual savings of $2.5bn following the deal.
But Shell chief executive Ben van Beurden said he remained committed to North Sea oil and expected to invest £4bn between 2016 and 2018.
Shell said the deal would also add 25% to its proven oil and gas reserves and 20% to production capacity, particularly in Australia's liquid natural gas (LNG) market and in deep water oil exploration off the Brazilian coast.
BG Group shareholders will own approximately 19% of the combined group following the deal.
Defensive merger?
The deal comes at a time of uncertainty for oil and gas companies. In the past six months the price of oil has fallen by about 50%. Meanwhile, analysts have warned that investment in North Sea oil exploration has all but dried up, threatening the entire industry.
Last month, the Chancellor, George Osborne, lowered the supplementary corporation tax levied against oil companies that operate in the North Sea.

CHC wins contract Shell
 

Undoubtly CHC takes over the 5 year DanCopter contract (2 yrs remaining) so to upgrade their fleet from 155 to 139's. The DanCopter management stays silent about it actually lieing to their workers they still have contract and nothing changes... This might be true at the moment but what happens on 1st of july???


No valuable merging info from NHV, no feedback from DC's management, no signs what so ever of any changes... it feels like a ticking bom. Totally not confident with it here :bored:

Will there be any future needs for pilots in CHC Norwich and Den Helder?

probably not as CHC were already looking at downsizing so theyll no doubt just retain more staff as required.

Irony is.......
 

....Shell citing the EC155 Sea State issue and added expense of hiring-in 139s as factor for curtailing contract (plus the fact that CHC were virtually throwing the 139s at them might have helped)
Sea State issue came about due to CAP1145, which came about as a direct result of CHC crashing off Sumburgh......

No wonder they say you have to have a sense of humour in this job ;-)

Only Shell employees have been officially informed, Shell probably delaying formal notification until May so 3-months notice would give them a month's overlap.
Crazy situation to be in but apparently such corporate practice does not occur or at least that was what the oil companies told the CAA

....Shell citing the EC155 Sea State issue and added expense of hiring-in 139s as factor for curtailing contract (plus the fact that CHC were virtually throwing the 139s at them might have helped)
Sea State issue came about due to CAP1145, which came about as a direct result of CHC crashing off Sumburgh......

Fairs fair EESDL - there had also been several Bond incidents; it wasn't just Sumburgh that led to the CAP1145 review. Not arguing your point, but let's have some balance.

I have been reliably informed that a modification to achieve Sea State 6 was certified by Airbus Helicopters in March specifically for DanCopter, so that excuse won't wash.

Real dilemma for CAA: is it better to have an operator they don't oversee replaced by one they do or stand accused of letting just the contract swapsie commercial pressures the Commons Committee were concerned about occur under there nose?

If the crew room chat is to be believed, there were also several other factors involved.

Again, not arguing the reasons; but picking one singular event, at the expense of ignoring several others, to support an argument just strikes me as a bit biased.

That's the beauty of Pprune
 

It is much like a crew room where any such bs can be countered directly - have not personally seen the email - just repeating what it reportedly said by some colleagues who stared at it for quite some time ;-)

Well aware there have been numerous other incidents that finally dragged the CAA into the NS - just sharing some dark humour - such that you might hear in a crew room and certainly never thought anybody would have taken it seriously - you live and learn I guess.....
However - Some encouraging news - the UK CAA can be assured that this particular non-UK EASA AOC holder has an SMS system/culture where atleast all incidents are reported.
And yes, you can read into that anything you like - bearing in mind of course that they employ pilots and engineers whom have probably worked for the same company you currently find yourself working for ;-)

We live in hope but despite the lady - who most certainly falls into the EBG category - is warming her singing chords - Shell might find they are unable to use CHC for some time if current investigations gather momentum. Google knows all.

What is ironic is that Shell had been going to Bond, then changed their minds late in the day after the G-REDW ditching in May 2012:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...iness-18273824

They then went to CHC who had the near identical G-CHCN ditching October 2012 and then the G-WNSB accident at Sumburgh in August 2013.

As Shell never liked North Denes, does that mean CHC would be flying from Norwich in the UK sector? (which would mean a different operator, flying a different type to the Shell decks and a new operating base for the operator)

That's a different Shell contract. That news report refers to the NNS contract, not SNS.

Yes.

I never said it was SNS! If it were it would have been KLM/ERA to Bristow to Dancopter to CHC over the last 17 years.

The thread topic is the clue as to what is being discussed here. Your reference was bit of a red herring.

If you want to limit the thread to the "Shell Southern North Sea Contract 2012" then almost all of the recent discussion is out because that's about the "Shell Southern North Sea Contract 2015"!

A reasonable person might think that other contemporary Shell North Sea contracts might have some relevance or interest.

Shell pulls out of Scatsta airport | Shetland News

And all change up North.

Now watch the IAC crumble :E