Bit strange SNI last time i was at the sim i bumped into a old friend of mine and he works for NHV!

So back to the original thread.........:ok:

SNI - looks like you are one of those ill-informed tossers one reads about on PPrune - oh well, I guess you are in the right place - ie - where you can't do any harm!!
now then, if you want to talk about the N3 sim...............

people who are working for NHV are ex CHC,BOND,INAER,Belgian air force,HELI UNION,DUTCH ARMY,Schreiner,French navy,Belgian Navy,SN Brussels,Royal Air Force....

So indeed NHV is not so different from the others.

Boy, I stepped on a lot of toes... All NHV guys?

Well what do you know, they do go to the sim now? That's quite new, trust me. And exactly, why do you think these people are all ex CHC, Bristow, etc.

Look, just have a look at their pilot turnover rate and you'll know what I'm talking about.

And correct, they do keep winning contracts by being cheap. Question though, why do you think they are cheap?

Anyway, I'll stop posting now, before it gets out of hand. Anyone is entitled to their opinion. And by all means, join them if you doubt what I had to say. I personally would rather be unemployed then work for these slave drivers.

Cheers!

T A X I !!!!!

Would that be to Norwich airport Sir?

Resentment ?
 

SNI, you are entitled to an opinion. I can only say you are ill informed. Do you really think O&G companies work with companies that do not meet the required standards? I guess not. I gather you have loads of resentment against NHV, because you have worked there? Or is it something else?

In all kindess I would like to ask you for a little bit of respect and professional courtesy. It would suit you better.

In the mean time have a good one and happy Easter!

P

Anybody with a few years of experience on the North Sea, let alone other areas will know the true answer to this question.

As far as opinions are concerned, it is still a rumour network, so I would say they are valid.
It may just help someone to be more careful when reading and considering a contract offer from any operator, and that can only be a good thing.

We all hear a lot of rumours, up to us to decide what we believe and whether it will make any difference or not.

S76Heavy. :D Finally someone here with common sense! Amen!

HHE. One can't be ill informed when the information is first hand experience. And, really? Respect and professional courtesy? :bored:

Congratulations though on winning the contract P. NHV must be very pleased with you!

Have a good one and happy easter!

SNI,
I guess you're with Bristow EHKD now!
Rumours are they might take a loss soon as well, CHC doesn't want you,neither does NHV.
Might get used using taxifare meter again:{

Good luck champ!

To "Shell Management",

Are you, as you imply from both your login name and your comments, a Shell employee or even a manager with them?

If so, I politely suggest you either actually post facts, that can be supported by some provable evidence , or refrain from posting your vague hints and comments.

In my opinion, telling a group of pilots here that their Company "... should always avoid complacency and trying to rip off their customers. Clearly that is what Wintershall reacted to" is not helpful. It implies detailed knowledge of Wintershall's tender process which you should not or can not have. It also gives nothing to a group of hard working pilots that they can use - they have no control over the pricing of their Company's contract. I don't work for CHC buy they clearly fly a good number of hours, and do not appear to be looking for reasons to stay on the ground. If there is complacency within CHC, I do not think it is with the pilots, engineers or operational staff. Do you?

Ultimately, if you wish to be constructive and to operate in an assertive manner (as all managers should strive for:-)), you should make your issues known directly to the managers of the companies you are concerned about. If you do have issues with a particular group of pilots, please state state your case clearly and factually.

Mazdadriver.

You are clearly new here. SM's postings are designed to be provocative and elicit outraged replies such as your own. Don't feed the troll as the saying goes. If you ignore him he gets bored and goes away for a while or is sin binned. He always comes back though.

Anyone who has worked in the offshore helicopter industry for a while knows how oil companies operate and Shell are without doubt are as slippery as they come. I wouldn't trust a Shell manager as far as I could throw him - real or imposter.

SNI - come back - your reasoned, intelligent, level-headed opinion is already missed!

Let us not forget that it's a free world and you are 'free' to say what you like - personally, I always try to say what I want as long as it does not besmirch (look that one up Cloggies!) fellow professionals blah blah and you must always be accountable for your words/actions.
To suppress an opinion is bullying - SNI, I value your opinion, if only to increase my awareness when dealing with certain O&G companies - which, let us be honest. are all of them (I think.............)

Remember, tolerate this and your children will be next!

"Shell Management" knows the name of a couple of our staff in Shell Aircraft, and uses these to try and pass himself off as having some kind of Shell connection. I'm 99% certain he has nothing to do with us; if he does, then standards in the aviation sector are much lower than those in engineering. I cannot, however, work out whether he is pro- or anti-Shell; he seems to waver around randomly between each point of view as time goes by.

Kat - Sent you a PM.

Lateldp

I don't know who it is that you are implying that I am, since I am UK based and don't work for Bristow, Sherlock, :oh: , but what you're suggesting isn't a half bad idea! If I were to lose my job, driving a taxi is way better than working for NHV! Get to be your own boss and probably pays better as well! ;)

Thanks for the tip!

Peace out. :ok:

If this is the reaction from the announcement, what's going to happen when they start flying?

*stir, stir*

HC

NHV will do just fine. Experienced management team, good equipment, good pilots and engineers. Better than CHC, Bristow, and Bond because they have good morale and whistle on their way to work. And they will keep winning OGP contracts because they meet all the standards and can underbid with lower costs. Their staffing per revenue hour (all staff, pilots, engineers, admin, etc) is about half of CHC.

Careful who you slag, TUPE won't save you.

Whistle
 

Has to be a nervous whistle!

Malabo I sincerely hope that the above mentioned team supplies you with a decent pension,loss of license and an ample amount of off days a year to spent with your family,to spent your hopefully decent salary.
If not,wake up mate,this is not a hobby but a job being done for the richest customers in the world.
Maybe NHV,Dancopter and the rest can do it for free,I am sure they will get all the contracts than,

Fly safe,
Rotorknight

Am I the only one that thinks this isn't necessarily a good thing. To provide a safe and quality product does require a certain staffing level. A 50% differential sounds potentially dangerous! :eek:

I think you will find that Malabo was being ironic.

In that case I need a chill pill :}
If he was not being ironic I stick to my case,no actually I do anyhow ;)

Let's try and make my very first post On Topic in stead of slagging off NHV, DanCopter, Bristow, Bond, CHC etc. :ugh:

Shell contract; If rumours are true about DanCopter winning Shell, does anyone know if they have the capacity to start this contract by July?

Cheers,
RP

Why do you ask ?

Why do you?

As far as I know the 155's in Nigeria haven't been released. If you read the topic about news in west africa it mentions 2 139's have been delivered but not used commercial...
This is one of the reasons why I wonder if anybody else than the current contract holder (bristow) can start the contract from July onwards but who knows.....?

The contract is now flown with 3 - 4 aircraft? From norwich and den helder.
Would be interesting to see if this will remain the same and if aircraft type used will be 155.

If shell does decide to go for Dancopter's 155 (order and delivery 139 is up to a year now), Dancopter would still need time to mod the aircraft to Shell requirement with crashworthy
fuel tanks. If Shell doesn't require that from Dancopter then they are very hypocrite and measure with two standards.

My guess is they go for a one year extension with Bristow and than maybe go for Dancopter. This way Dancopter would have more time to setup two bases, arrange crew, mod the aircraft or even go for a 139.

I do say maybe, because it could well be that shell will just continue with Bristow, since this would be more logical, commercially and financially i.e. the shell contract also consist s of them operating out of Aberdeen, as far as I know.

Is it not currently DanCopter who is flying extra work for shell out of norwich?
Double standards have been a problem for ages... If the current supplier cant deliver, standards are all of a sudden not so important...

Anyway.. Will be interesting to see what the outcome will be. Not only the shell but also wintershall. The last one most likely to go to NHV... Bummer for the CHC guys but they will survive. If shell goes to DanCopter that will be the end for Bristow Den Helder?!

Nice variaty of aircraft colours though!

TorqueStripe,

From the outside looking in, what are the "2 different 'philosophies'" between DanCopter and Bristow and why wouldn't they mix?

Clearly they are two companies of very different sizes and therefore the supporting staff numbers will vary but what's so significant that makes you think people wouldn't jump from one to another (big to small)?

I'm not after a bite BTW, or a whaa!

Are you sure the Dancopter machines don't have crashworthy tanks? They are all B1s which have self sealing bladders, I believe. It's true the SPDC owned B models in Nigeria don't, but they are not owned by Dancopter.

Pretty sure. Friend of mine flew both types of 155B1, one with and one without crash-worthy fuel tanks. Difference is about 41 kilos of fuel you can take less in the crash-worthy one. I do think it is standard on a 155B1, but apparently you can go for an extra safe option which makes them even more crash-worthy, so to say? :\

SNI -
I guess 'pretty sure' does not confirm the same level of confidence as your bold statement re-iterating that a certain company's pilots do not go to the sim - which turned out to be incorrect.........
- you must be getting wiser!
;-)

It wasn't years, it was 1 year to be exact. And yes, that was a temporary add hoc contract if I am informed correctly.

EESDL.

Maybe, who knows! ;-)

Have you considered the fact though that they might have gone from none to once a year? Which is still half of what other companies do, but that would coincide nicely with ones comment here that they have half the cost per revenue hour compared to other companies. ;-)

@SNI

With some interest I am following your comments concerning the "Crash worthy" fuel tanks.

Working on EC155 for quite some time, I never heard anything on this "crash worthy" tanks.

So based on your comments, I have checked the SB/MODS/FLM and Type certificate and can not trace any reference to these tanks. I even checked out the original Bristow order for the EC155 that now operate for Shell, without any trace.

Could you please share more information concerning these tanks?

Regards,

Mark

Mmm, you could well be right. You might wanna contact Bristow about this, since they are pretty convinced about the subject, according to my friend.

Might be interesting to see what they have to say about this.

SNI - can you respond to my earlier remarks about the tanks? Or do you have to ask your friend?

I did, scroll back.

Post-edit to MarkH1 and 212man: Like mazdadriver says below... He is the friend I was talking about! :O

B1 has sef sealing bladder tanks for sure. The aircraft operated by DanCopter out of Den Helder a while ago are also B1's.

At the moment I dont see the point in switching operators if the type of aircraft flown will still be the (underpowered) 155..... Or Bristow must have pissed off shell big time... Not unlikely i suppose :cool: