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All I know is that everytime I think TUPE will apply it doesn't, and everytime I think it won't apply it does.
I have given up trying to guess what will happen |
Some interesting reading here, with the changes from 2014: http://www.acas.org.uk/media/pdf/t/r...ACCESSIBLE.pdf
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Why is there even a discussion about TUPE? Dancopter lost a contract, CHC won a new contract.
Now, if CHC had bought Dancopter and inherited the contract, that might have been a different story. But TUPE doesn't even apply in all of those cases. |
It isn't a new contract, it's only until 2017, ie a continuation of the existing contract. A bit short termist yes, but I suppose as Shell have demonstrated that they can exercise a 90 day clause for reasons of convenience, which can never be questioned, maybe CHC are happy with 2 years :mad:
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From 212 man's link
Situation 2: Outsourcing and contracting The TUPE regulations apply in the following situations: ● a client outsources to a contractor ● a new contractor takes over activities from another contractor ● a client takes activities back in-house from a contractor |
Pretty sure tupe will not exist as it will be a different type.
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See post #392 above, this is a straightforward case and so-called industry professionals (us lot) can't agree :ugh: proves my point.
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johni, did you attend a CRM course in your training or did you miss that day?
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I think we have a good picture of Johni: 5 foot nothing, hand gestures in the pub, maverick pilot! Good call on the CRM comment! Probably failed the Dancopter interview and very secure in his job. Lets hope we don't lose this chap off the North sea as it would be tragic!
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TUPE or not
This thread sums up my understanding of the TUPE rules and aligns with what I have actually seen happen on the N Sea over the last couple of decades:
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/391...-question.html The 2014 changes to the TUPE regulation don't seem to have changed the basic premise much. A check of the guidance material available on the ACAS website shows that TUPE will apply if: 1. The employees are deliberately organised by the employer to provide a service for a particular client. 2. If the same work is being performed, with the same equipment at the same premises. There are other criteria, but these two indicate to me that TUPE will not apply with regard to this contractual change. |
I wonder how NHV's plans are progressing with their Aberdeen base? Can't see much building work going on and they are going to be up and running by the end of the year...
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Originally Posted by cyclic
I wonder how NHV's plans are progressing with their Aberdeen base? Can't see much building work going on and they are going to be up and running by the end of the year...
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The grass can be greener......
......you just have to make sure you keep it watered !
It would appear that no matter of watering would have stopped DC from losing this particular contract |
So not a new building at all - so before anything is said about false rumours, it's on the way!
Think yellow would be a nice colour for the Aberdeen wildlife, might put some brightness into the place! Think on the 'bright side'! :O |
Hmmm, is a certain company now regretting recently firing a number of AW139 pilots...?
EXPERIENCED AW139 PILOTS REQUIRED – START DATE JULY 1st Offshore Expertise That Runs Wide & Deep Decades of over-water flying in extremely demanding conditions have honed unmatched knowledge, skill—and leadership—in offshore transportation for companies that discover and produce oil and natural gas. Each year, our people carry more than one million passengers to and from the ships and platforms that make up their offshore workplaces. This is a billion-dollar business built on the foundation of a strong team spirit in our company and our greatest strength is our motivated and passionate employees. All you have to do is get on board. CHC are currently recruiting for talented and dedicated experienced AW139 Captains and Co Pilots, to join our highly-skilled CHC team. You will form part of a small multi – pilot crew team and have the positive can do attitude, and will be driven towards going that extra mile for our customers. Responsible for such duties concerning the flight, in accordance with the Company Operations Manual, including procedures limitations and performance relating to the specific helicopter type. Responsibilities: Be responsible for the operation and safety of the helicopter, its occupants and cargo Ensure that all operational procedures and checklists are complied with, in accordance with the operations manual Support an open environment for CRM and actively use high quality crew monitoring procedures Maintain a proper standard of crew discipline, conduct and personal appearance International travel may be required. May perform other duties as assigned. This role would suit individuals who are available to commence on our Go live date of 1st July 15. Flexible roster, 189 days plus 5 stand down days. Skills and Qualifications Required. EASA/ATPL (H) License Valid Class 1 Medical Certificate AW139 Type Rating 3000hrs,Min Flying Hrs 1500hrs, Total Command flight time 1200hrs, Multi Engine 500hrs, Min Offshore time Please apply ONLINE at CHC Helicopter to be considered for this position. CHC is committed to equal opportunity employment and invites applications from all qualified candidates. Our process is simple. We look through the incoming CVs to see which ones best match our criteria and contact the people we'd like to learn more about. Unfortunately, we are unable to personally speak with everyone that sends us a CV, but please don't be discouraged if you don't hear from us. We will keep your CV on file for at least six months in case a future position matches your qualifications. |
Decades of over-water flying in extremely demanding conditions have honed unmatched knowledge, skill—and leadership—in offshore transportation for companies that discover and produce oil and natural gas. Each year, our people carry more than one million passengers to and from the ships and platforms that make up their offshore workplaces. This is a billion-dollar business built on the foundation of a strong team spirit in our company and our greatest strength is our motivated and passionate employees. All you have to do is get on board. Is this a special way of valuing a company ? |
With revenue last year of $1.4bn CHC is still a billion dollar business. Investor perception and actual value are different. Shell is a $400bn revenue firm but is not valued that highly either as a business by investors.
It's rare for industrial companies to have earning multiples of more than their revenue owing to the likelihood that their revenue will be similar next year. By comparison, a tech company might be worth a lot more next year as it might grow rapidly and investors factor that into their pricing today. Dull but largely true. CHC is still a right sh!t show though... |
Is this criticism from CHIRP unprecedented?
CHIRP Critical of an Oil Company's Commercial Practices This is Shell and Dancopter right? Was the TUPE claim ever resolved? |
Unprecedented? I think it is but perhaps the CAA inadvertently gave them a green light in their comments in CAP 1145.
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