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Ian Corrigible 13th Apr 2010 13:05

Navy83blue - Sorry, no personal involvement in this one, I was just copying a post over from another forum (JH).

I/C

Pilot135pd 13th Apr 2010 15:49

Here's the other side of the story also from where you brought the first post :

Author: Pablo Date: 4/13/2010 9:43:36 AM

Wow this is just excellent I would love to know where you get you information from. This is Pablo and I am really appauled at the lack of information which you have. I furthermore say to you that if you are able to fix this wih SRCA then please by all means. SRCA is in a dispute and that is handled by attorney's that are experts.
You stated this SRCA has a history of changing contracts...Maybe pay attention to that statment.
Again this is Pablo and I can be reached at [email protected]. PS one of the lackeys you may be referring too.

flyclt 13th Apr 2010 18:18

Facts
 
FYI, Pablo is a dispatcher that has only been with the company about a month and a half. Not sure how he became the expert on stuff that occurred prior to his arrival. But then again, he is still there hoping for pay! lol:=

Also, from what I can tell, the copied post is fairly accurate. AA has ceased ops and employees have not been paid for the month of March. And, I have copies of the Prince's Letter both in Arabic and translated English..it does exist!:eek:

HEMS driver 13th Apr 2010 18:36

Pablo, are you the same "pilot135pd" from Just Helicopters.com?

mutt 13th Apr 2010 18:46

I was wondering why I hadn't heard their callsign in the last couple of weeks... now it makes sense, its a pity as its a service this country badly needs.

Best of luck to all.

Mutt

Navy83blue 13th Apr 2010 22:00

This just.....
 
This just gets better and better.
Flyclt - I'm really interested in seeing this letter, could you send it to me please via private email. Also, how did you get them?

flyclt 13th Apr 2010 22:53

I worked for AA until a week ago. I received the letters via email from the Saudi Red Crescent. Sorry, I will not forward them until AA shows they are not willing to pay what is owed. Then all bets are off!:E

Pilot135pd 14th Apr 2010 02:36

No no

Jollygreenfe 15th Apr 2010 02:31

Yep I have them in both languages also. Really sucks having an empty wallet at tax time :sad:

Just to show you how small the world is, I over heard some folks talking at the Air Methods booth today at the Quad A show about AA and it was NOT in a good light...

Cheers!
Jolly

Navy83blue 15th Apr 2010 20:33

What a shocker
 
What a shocker that Air Methods or any company would say something not so nice about another company. Did the person have specifics about AA or was it "a friend of mine's 2nd cousin's friend overheard someone" type of info? Lets be real....some of air methods own employees don't talk nice about Air Methods so are comments by another company really relevant without facts.

Notar fan 15th Apr 2010 22:26

Overall its a shame that the program didn't work out..... It would have proven the capability of the 902 in that environment, which would have been a plus for the product.
From past experience, the ME is a difficult place to operate politically. You are paid, what they want and when they want, regardless of prior agreements in place.

mfriskel 16th Apr 2010 00:57

902 has been operating great since 2007 as HEMS in Qatar. Pretty hostile desert environment there with a good amount of heat. 900 w/207E has been on VVIP duty in UAE since 2006. The ship works great in the desert and has been into some really abrasive areas regularly. Don't forget the shipis built in the Arizona desert and regularly sees over 110 F and DAs of 8000 or more. Mexico has had a 900 since the early days operating in Mexico city at 12,000 DAs for years and several more operating off-shore with their Navy armed with rockets and GAU-19. The ship has no problems in hostile and harsh environments.

9Aplus 16th Apr 2010 08:48

Like to invite AA people to do some charity work here in 9A
we do need HEMS too. Our state do not like to pay either.... :}

HU500D 17th Apr 2010 16:06

May be
 

Originally Posted by Check6
HU500D, that is not accurate. Stick to the facts! := This program is mandated by HRH King Abdullah and it will continue in one form or another.


Hello Check 6, have you been reading all the post related to the EMS in Saudi, do you need more facts?, because if you need more there are alot more to surface if AA (HH) doesn't pay the salaries of the employees soon.:yuk::yuk::yuk:

spinwing 27th Apr 2010 02:05

Mmmmm ...

And where are the AW139's coming from pray tell?


:E

Kulwin Park 27th Apr 2010 11:29

Good reply "Mfriskel" ... would like to see an MD902 one day ... MMmnnnnn

luisf4 27th Apr 2010 15:29

h500d
 
you got the picture totally right!!!!!!!! have you been in dubai before????
i was there for two years and they changed my contract and most of us left indeed!!!
no wonder why there is allways open positions in the midle east.....
because the lie to people keep that in mind!!!!!!!
do not thrust arabs, pakistanis, or indians because they will screw you up if they can .... in most cases .... there are also good people in there i know
but most of them act that way. its just their culture ....

Epiphany 28th Apr 2010 08:58

Wise words Luis and no doubt gained from bitter experience. I am often amazed at the posts from people heading to the ME who obviously think that what they have been told is how it is going to be. Do your research - Pprune is a good place to do that and learn from others experience.

luisf4 28th Apr 2010 17:19

true
 
this is the best place to "learn" the scenario around the world ......
when there is one person saying bad stuff about something it maybe a wine person... when there is a whole thread .. keep your eyes wide open something is wrong.... no suprise to anyone i guess... besides pprune is famous world wide .. and u can find anything u like to know here ..
fly safe everyone!!!

mutt 29th Apr 2010 00:48

HU500D, do you know if AA were paid their dues and are refusing to pay their employees, or are AA awaiting payment from SRCA?

Its a pity that this operation failed, it was fun watching them and listening to them.....

Mutt


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