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STVA 24th Dec 2009 12:42

Ned
you seem to be misinformed as only two MD902,s are to be supplied by Un ited the other Aircraft are all supplied by Action Aviation :ok:Three are currently in country being used for ops and Med training one further on the way next week ;)

Ian Corrigible 24th Dec 2009 13:17

Interesting...is Action Aviation still an MD dealer? Rotorhub seemed to suggest last year that the dealership agreement announced in November '06 had been deep-sixed.


Action Aviation no longer listed as distributors for MD Helicopters in Middle East, India and Scandinavia
Rotorhub 16 June 2008

The Rotorhub team have noted that Action Aviation are no longer listed on MD Helicopters' website as their distributor for the Middle East, the Indian Sub Continent and Scandinavia., less than twenty months after the manufacturer announced an eight-year contract with Action covering those territories.

We understand from industry sources that the two organisations are in dispute after MD significantly increased the price of all their products and reduced the Distributor commission structure without notice. This has obviously affected all MD Agents and Distributors worldwide, and follows Robinson's adjustment of their distributor discount as well.
I/C

Ned-Air2Air 24th Dec 2009 15:49

STVA - When I was chatting with Osama Ghazal from United that was what I was led to believe. :confused:

I know Hamish had other helos there but thought they had come via United, obviously not.

Cheers

Ned

imuney 18th Jan 2010 23:37

Does anybody have more details about rotation, compensation, etc......?

jiggyman524 20th Jan 2010 19:33

Whats the salary ?
 
Anyone know what the salary might be for a pilot with 5 yrs of EMS experience , 4000+ hrs and ATPL ( H ) .... Along with benefits .....??

Anyone ?

HyFlyer 8th Feb 2010 22:47

Compensation
 
I think you need to send a message, with CV, to [email protected]

and then you can find out exactly what the deal is being offered.

Currently required:

FAA, IR HEMS experienced pilots.
Paramedics
MD902 and/or FAA A&P mechanics
SMS managers / Safety officers
Stores / Logistics staff
Quality manager - HEMS organisation experience
HR manager (ME experienced)
Travel office professional

The activity is Saudi based on 45-60 day rotations or resident.

The team there are out saving lives now on a regular basis.....and the program will be extended countrywide, from the initial Riyadh start up activity.

Other aircraft types (rotary and fixed) will be added to the mix as this grows.

jiggyman524 15th Feb 2010 17:05

Sent my resume but ....
 
have heard nothing from them yet ... been 3 weeks now .. Anyone know the process ?

helihog 16th Feb 2010 17:39

Applied about 2 months ago and yet nothing !!!!!!!!!!!

Kulwin Park 16th Feb 2010 20:11

Don't know what MD902 is like as EMS machine ...
Would have thought EC135 too smal for that role ...
Would have thought they may have gone a Dauphin or something that has a bit more of a multi-role capability?

Kulwin Park 16th Feb 2010 20:14

Actually just clicked on their link ... shows a background picture of a blue/red/white BK117 ... is that what they previously used?

Ian Corrigible 16th Feb 2010 20:50

That, my young Padawan, is a BO105... :E

I/C

HU500D 11th Apr 2010 14:17

END
 
That's all folks, the program is over.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

STVA 11th Apr 2010 15:27

Very sad as the operation was begining to get going:uhoh:

Check 6 11th Apr 2010 15:32

HU500D, that is not accurate. Stick to the facts! := This program is mandated by HRH King Abdullah and it will continue in one form or another.

mfriskel 11th Apr 2010 16:04

Is there a story here?

mfriskel 11th Apr 2010 17:03

"Kulwin Park Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 106

Don't know what MD902 is like as EMS machine ...
Would have thought EC135 too smal for that role ...
Would have thought they may have gone a Dauphin or something that has a bit more of a multi-role capability?"


KP: I don't think multi-role is needed for this dedicated HEMS operation. The MD902 is actually a good multi-role machine but long distance legs she does not have. What it does have is great performance for the Middle East environment, low rotorwash for the off heliport environment, low maint required in the Middle East environment, multi-patient capability and acceptable range with a 100 mile out and back range when proprely configured for HEMS and fully crewed. The only real problem with the 902 is the supplier.
Bigger ships have some advantages and many dis-advantages in the Middle East, but the patients have to be in a favorable place for a bigger machine to land. I think a fleet of light twins (MD902) for local ops and a sensable fixed wing (PC-12 or maybe even a light jet) fleet for cross country transport would be a great mix in KSA.

HU500D 11th Apr 2010 17:28

The problem is not the MD902, the real problem at KSA is that AA and SRCA didn’t pay the salaries of the dispatchers, paramedics, pilots and mechanics from March until everybody had enough of the lies and left KSA the first week of April.

Ian Corrigible 12th Apr 2010 20:51

Copied over from The Dark Side:


All,
Just a quick note to tell you all at one time--the gig is over! Action Aviation (UK company based out of Dubai FTZ) reneged on payroll for March, owes lots of money. The Saudi Red Crescent Authority (SRCA) is not going to pay Action not one red riyal more.

If you are waiting for a job with them, my advice, do not turn down any real job offers. You will be waiting a long time. Also, do not believe any of the BS the Chairman or his lackeys are spewing about they are owed money and all will be well in a couple of weeks. IT WILL NOT BE!

The Prince over the SRCA has issued a formal letter stating that Action will not be paid anymore money and as far as they are concerned Action Aviation broke/violated the contract.

2 MD 902s were evacuated out of Saudi prior to the whole thing falling apart. 2 remain in country. There were never more than 4 of which 3 were flyable at any time. The company tried some BS by putting a p.o.s. SJ30 on the contract along with an Airbus-318...all fell through.

Apparently, the SRCA is pursuing their own ops with old B412s and a couple of AW139s. I am sure they will be hiring in the future. I will just caution you to be extremely careful! It is not what it seems on the surface...SRCA has a history of changing contracts after you are in country. Most will leave, the hard-up will remain and sign on for a future of getting screwed.
I/C

JAA/FAA Pilot 12th Apr 2010 23:55

Sad to hear..
 
...but you just confirmed what no one believed...or did not wanted to hear. :eek:

Navy83blue 13th Apr 2010 08:12

Where did.....
 
Ian,

Where did you hear about the Princes' letter? Have you seen the letter or is it just rumor?


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